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Fact is, BMW make money on warranties. All car companies do. The odds are always in their favour.
Not sure just how much that is true now as the BMW warranty is with a completely separate company (Allianz if I remember correctl) who also cover Volvo and some other manufacturer, I know because when I rang up to buy a warranty with the BMW number on their site I got a chap who answered “Volvo warranty services, can I help” oops, :D

Although I agree they do make money from the warranties, all depends upon your perception of risk, I like the nice warm feeling it gives.....
 

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The more I read posts like this, the more I feel that an i3 is a false economy.

  • You will pay a lot more to buy it
  • then almost forced to buy extended warranty
  • expensive servicing
  • expensive consumables.
Add it all up.

To the extent that the potential fuel saving is not offset even the slightest by these heavy costs.
The i3 was never a budget option. You don't buy custom build one off concept car designs and expect them to be cheap, you expect them to be expensive, difficult and wonderful, in equal measure. It is still the coolest small "zero emissions" car around, even getting towards ten years after launch.

Your threads are many and verbose about how little time you have for the compromise you encountered when you tried something different. Others don't share your goals and requirements.
 

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tyreleader lists the ecopia and s001 bridgestones in this size. btw tyreleader price is £165 for the eco and £73 each for S001.

I believe the potenzas are from the i8. They are only available in a size that matches the rear tyres on an i3s, there's not an equivalent for the front tyres on an i3s or for any of the tyres on an i3. The only tyre available all around for i3 and i3s is the ecopia as far as I'm aware.
 

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Just getting an i3 so I'll have 3 year warranty and service package before I truly encounter the dangerous world of the BMW dealer.

Might be a daft question but are (yet) there any independent specialists that are actually set up to service / repair i3 BEV's as they come out of warranty.

You can obviously sort things like tyres / brakes / 12v battery through independents but are there any specialist EV independent service companies capable of diagnosing HV issues etc.
 

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Update: had the rear tyres replaced by BMW dealer today. £402 pair fitted etc. After a couple more misquotes. It was £20 dearer than going elsewhere but in the current circumstances I did not want the hassle. In discussion with the service agent he said the dealership really sub-contracts to a tyre dealer anyway. So the markup is just a handling fee but they know they need to keep the prices aligned in future, after a lot of complaints.
 

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Update: had the rear tyres replaced by BMW dealer today. £402 pair fitted etc. After a couple more misquotes. It was £20 dearer than going elsewhere but in the current circumstances I did not want the hassle. In discussion with the service agent he said the dealership really sub-contracts to a tyre dealer anyway. So the markup is just a handling fee but they know they need to keep the prices aligned in future, after a lot of complaints.
Our main dealer price matched the local specialist tyre dealers price (Kwikfit etc)......we got about £180 knocked off the original quote from the dealer for four tyres (REX).
 

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Our main dealer price matched the local specialist tyre dealers price (Kwikfit etc)......we got about £180 knocked off the original quote from the dealer for four tyres (REX).
If you don't ask, you don't get and I'm sure you are happier having your trusted dealer do the work.
 

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If you don't ask, you don't get and I'm sure you are happier having your trusted dealer do the work.
Not that bothered who did the job really, but it was in for its three year check and MoT at the time, soooo

And of course there was plenty of free decent tea/coffee and snacks in a very (expensive) comfortable lounge area.....win win.
 

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I need 6 new tyres...

Full set of summers, and a pair of rear winters.

Local tyre places are entertaining. Contacted 3 or 4 and was interrupted while telling them I need, to be told that I'm wrong and I need to go look again.

Every now and then I tell them to Google image search the i3 and wait to hear the "ohhhh, riiight".
 

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They are not just tyres, they are BMW TYRES. Apparently BMW owners like to pay for the privilege of being one as it implies greater quality. I think it is a case of "I saw you coming"
BMW dont make tyres.But they make lots of money out of those owners who think BMW is the best thing since sliced bread.Dont give in to their rip off Price's and shop around.
 

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Lots of helpful tyre information here, including some sites I have not tried before. Thanks, everyone.

The moral of the story is: if you get a quote from a BMW dealership, challenge it!
Yawn yawn oh dear I'm getting so TYRED now good night.😂lol.
 

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I have 195/55/20 winter tyres fitted all round to my i3s. No rubbing or need for spacers, not even on the front.

Done 2k miles on them, insurers know.

Just deciding whether to keep to this oversize set up for the summer wheels. Michelins Primacy3 under £88 each supplied at the moment.
I have a late 2019 i3s and find the ride a bit firm ,told it would ride better with higher profile tyres . did you fit summer tyres of 195/55/20 around? If so was the ride better.
 

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You might get better results in that department by dropping the tyre pressure 3-4 psi?
The ride is great, frankly, says the person who drives any car older than about five years, ever, but it's a small light car and it's compromised that way by very high tyre pressure designed to keep rolling resistance low and efficiency high.
 

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Lots of helpful tyre information here, including some sites I have not tried before. Thanks, everyone.

The moral of the story is: if you get a quote from a BMW dealership, challenge it!
I would take away another moral of the story ...

... when choosing a car, figure out how much all the servicing will cost. Surprised you did not know already.

It is not simply because deeper profile 'small' wheel tyres are more comfortable than low profile that I choose the most basic steel wheel options when available, it is also replacement cost. If I 'have' to replace my Zoe tyres in the lease (hopefully not) I can do so for £32 a tyre. That makes me feel a lot less stressed if I can't avoid a deep pothole.
 

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You might get better results in that department by dropping the tyre pressure 3-4 psi?
The ride is great, frankly, says the person who drives any car older than about five years, ever, but it's a small light car and it's compromised that way by very high tyre pressure designed to keep rolling resistance low and efficiency high.
Hi. Thanks I will give that a try, it's a shame that someone like Michelin doesn't make tyres for the i3s as I think the Bridgestones are very noise at times.
 

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The Bridgestone are B rated for noise apparently, and low rolling resistance tyres are likely not to be that noisy though they are run very hard; that said I don't find them particularly noisy tbh. But I have different experiences in other cars.. Maybe you'd just be happier with the 19" wheels? I found the problem with those on the standard i3 is that the car is very wiggly and I much preferred the directness and stability of the 20s.
 

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The Bridgestone are B rated for noise apparently, and low rolling resistance tyres are likely not to be that noisy though they are run very hard; that said I don't find them particularly noisy tbh. But I have different experiences in other cars.. Maybe you'd just be happier with the 19" wheels? I found the problem with those on the standard i3 is that the car is very wiggly and I much preferred the directness and stability of the 20s.
I did look into that but the all electric i3 has 155 tyres front and rear. even the REX only ups the rears to 175 so a bit narrow I thought. Thanks anyway. I guess I will stick for now.
 

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The Bridgestone are B rated for noise apparently, and low rolling resistance tyres are likely not to be that noisy though they are run very hard; that said I don't find them particularly noisy tbh. But I have different experiences in other cars.. Maybe you'd just be happier with the 19" wheels? I found the problem with those on the standard i3 is that the car is very wiggly and I much preferred the directness and stability of the 20s
 

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Hi. Thanks I will give that a try, it's a shame that someone like Michelin doesn't make tyres for the i3s as I think the Bridgestones are very noise at times.
The market is too small to justify another manufacturer to tool up for them.

I would take away another moral of the story ...

... when choosing a car, figure out how much all the servicing will cost.
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I think we'll be waiting a very long time before any benevolent chinese tyre manufacturer decides to start making the very odd tyres required for the i3. In fact, we'd better hope that Bridgestone don't go bankrupt, frankly..
Not sure I'd want Toyo Proxes on the i3S anyway ...
 
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