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Commute to work..up to 65 mph on M54 driving with the road, no less than 50 (temp speed limit to 50 in parts). 15 miles.

Numerous work trips at speed limit round Shrewsbury at 30 or 40 mph. Several routes chosen as quicker not shorter ie alomg the A5 at 50 mph +.

Commute home on back roads to avoid traffic. Shopping locally.

100 miles driven from a charge.

No workplace charging available. No outside office hours charging reliably available in Shrewsbury to get me home to Telford.

Feels important to share my experience so that those considering a Leaf whose circstances are similar in part or full can see what range is possible when you need it.

Cold and wet and windy weather would have reduced my range further - to the 90's.

I was by no means driving as though my life depended on the range today - could have eked out a few more if needed. The warm weather helped though.

But. If you are desparate to drive an ev. If you drive such high mileage that your fuel savings alone could pay for the Leaf despite being on a below £20,000 salary. If you need the Leaf to be your only vehicle and get you close to 100 miles from a charge. If you are prepared to adjust your driving style to achieve this.

It can be done....
 

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However not by those of us without nerves of steel! I'm very impressed but no way would I attempt the same in Evie! I'm a wuss!
 

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You did pretty well getting down to 8% as I remember!

And it is good we are all different. Sometimes my trusting that all will be ok gets me in trouble.....!

But I suppose rationally my point would be that we only have 100▲% of the range available if we are prepared to use nearly all of it!

And more importantly....for others like me .... I want to share my experience...because prior to buying my Leaf knowing what was possible for people like me would have helped me make the decision to buy....

It is good we are all different though....:)
 

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You did pretty well getting down to 8% as I remember!

And it is good we are all different. Sometimes my trusting that all will be ok gets me in trouble.....!

But I suppose rationally my point would be that we only have 100▲% of the range available if we are prepared to use nearly all of it!

And more importantly....for others like me .... I want to share my experience...because prior to buying my Leaf knowing what was possible for people like me would have helped me make the decision to buy....

It is good we are all different though....:)
I do think it's great that you've done it and shared. I just know I'd be at the point of utter panic if I saw those dashes instead of battery percentage remaining. I suppose it also depends on when you're travelling too. I won't ever run that low outside office (and charging) hours ;)
 
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Yes I do think the Leaf display is incredibly anxiety triggering when it gets low. To stop giving you any guide at the point where you most need guidance.....can only suspect a lawyers influence in this

The thing is, when you lose all info at 7%.. you should have up to 7 carefully driven, on level ground,miles remaining.

My experience and others confirms this to be true.

We do it so you don't have to. But remember it IS there if a gun to your head on a cold,wet, blowy, misty autumnal night.....;)
 

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It is all distracting......blocking the display with lbr warning at 7 % .... and so on.

Guess I have just learned to ignore it all.

"I have !7% / miles remaining? Great, I am within 17 miles of home so no problem. And hey, I was watching both my trip and % guide so knew this anyway. Can I have my info display back please?

(Finger press of button.)

Thanks. Where were we?"
 

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As I can do 130miles in my zoe just spent the week in Devon 579 miles around trip, i like the leaf interior finish better than the zoe but I don't like the you have to push it to 6/7% to get it a 100. On the trip I was doing 80/90miles then pulling for a charge and still having 30/40 miles on the clock, and most of the time I was 65/70 mph it was a good run on the long hills I was using 0%power at 70/80miles and as little as 5/15KW to hold it at the speed, I can't wait for the new leaf with a 186mile range
 

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Lol, I saw the thread title and thought the subject was zoe battery degradation and they were suddenly dropping to only 100 miles :)

As I can do 130miles in my zoe just spent the week in Devon 579 miles around trip, i like the leaf interior finish better than the zoe but I don't like the you have to push it to 6/7% to get it a 100. On the trip I was doing 80/90miles then pulling for a charge and still having 30/40 miles on the clock, and most of the time I was 65/70 mph it was a good run on the long hills I was using 0%power at 70/80miles and as little as 5/15KW to hold it at the speed, I can't wait for the new leaf with a 186mile range
 

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Did you not notice it was in the Leaf section of the forum......;)

Also had 5 people in the car at times which you can't in a Zoe.....

More importantly though they are BOTH great cars. Am sure Zoe owners made the right decision for THEM as did Leaf owners. For one of us to be right doesn't make the other wrong.
 

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I just got myself a Peugeot iOn and fetched it from the dealers yesterday. It was a 70 mile journey and I did seriously consider driving the iOn but as it's second hand and most folk are saying 60 mile real world range I decided to trailer the car home. (range anxiety before I even got the car!)

It does look like the newer EVs are getting into the much more acceptable range for the regular motorist as opposed to us motoring oddities. I bought the iOn to save me money as 11,500 of my 15,000 annual miles are a regular 20 mile to and 20 mile back commute, I reckon I should save myself about £1500 a year in fuel and being that the car was just under £8000 with 3000 miles on the clock I figured the time was right to take the plunge. I'm still keeping my regular car for the long journeys and to haul heavy stuff about with but given that it's got 115,000 on the clock it isn't really worth trading in against much.

Effectively I've bought myself a cheap hybrid. Consider it as an Outlander but £20k cheaper!

I intend to gradually push the range on my iOn to find out how far I can really go in it, though I'll do the finding out within a reasonable radius of home like you Steve. Currently the car's telling me it's got 45mile range on a full battery but that will be based on all the test drives and hacks around by the service department while it's been up for sale at the dealers. It's good to read how people are getting good realistic ranges from their cars.

EVs make ideal runarounds at the moment and as most households these days have more that one car it really does make sense that one of them is an EV. I figured I could not really afford to not save on my fuel bill by not buying an EV despite the fact that what I needed was a car to replace my diesel which I haul various cars around on a trailer and also use as a van with all the seats removed to lug heavy engines about. But I only do this for 3,500 miles in a year.
 

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Better leave one of the boys behind in future @Eunicholas ;)
Was confusing the Zoe with the i3 which only has 4 seats!

But the Zoe does have the lease which was a deal breaker for me. On my salary.

And the 100 miles from a charge really is enough for me.

An added benefit is the Leaf motor is relatively more efficent at low speeds than the Zoe as opposed to the Zoe being more efficent at high speeds. Most of my miles are around town.

Again, am happy that you are happy with your Zoe....we can both be right here.....;)
 

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I just got myself a Peugeot iOn and fetched it from the dealers yesterday. It was a 70 mile journey and I did seriously consider driving the iOn but as it's second hand and most folk are saying 60 mile real world range I decided to trailer the car home. (range anxiety before I even got the car!)

It does look like the newer EVs are getting into the much more acceptable range for the regular motorist as opposed to us motoring oddities. I bought the iOn to save me money as 11,500 of my 15,000 annual miles are a regular 20 mile to and 20 mile back commute, I reckon I should save myself about £1500 a year in fuel and being that the car was just under £8000 with 3000 miles on the clock I figured the time was right to take the plunge. I'm still keeping my regular car for the long journeys and to haul heavy stuff about with but given that it's got 115,000 on the clock it isn't really worth trading in against much.

Effectively I've bought myself a cheap hybrid. Consider it as an Outlander but £20k cheaper!

I intend to gradually push the range on my iOn to find out how far I can really go in it, though I'll do the finding out within a reasonable radius of home like you Steve. Currently the car's telling me it's got 45mile range on a full battery but that will be based on all the test drives and hacks around by the service department while it's been up for sale at the dealers. It's good to read how people are getting good realistic ranges from their cars.

EVs make ideal runarounds at the moment and as most households these days have more that one car it really does make sense that one of them is an EV. I figured I could not really afford to not save on my fuel bill by not buying an EV despite the fact that what I needed was a car to replace my diesel which I haul various cars around on a trailer and also use as a van with all the seats removed to lug heavy engines about. But I only do this for 3,500 miles in a year.
Sounds sensible. And that factoring of the fuel costs into financing ev ownership was key for me too. Up to 22,000 miles a year. Paid for in full over five years. Fuel savings pay for the car repayments in full. I expect some battery degradation in the last year or two. Will look at battery replacement at the end of the five years when car paid off.
 

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Sounds like you got a great deal , we are in a very similar position but intend to give up the 103,000 ice before too long. You will probably find you favour using the ion all the time and your battery worries will be the one on the ice going flat ! Enjoy.
I just got myself a Peugeot iOn and fetched it from the dealers yesterday. It was a 70 mile journey and I did seriously consider driving the iOn but as it's second hand and most folk are saying 60 mile real world range I decided to trailer the car home. (range anxiety before I even got the car!)

It does look like the newer EVs are getting into the much more acceptable range for the regular motorist as opposed to us motoring oddities. I bought the iOn to save me money as 11,500 of my 15,000 annual miles are a regular 20 mile to and 20 mile back commute, I reckon I should save myself about £1500 a year in fuel and being that the car was just under £8000 with 3000 miles on the clock I figured the time was right to take the plunge. I'm still keeping my regular car for the long journeys and to haul heavy stuff about with but given that it's got 115,000 on the clock it isn't really worth trading in against much.

Effectively I've bought myself a cheap hybrid. Consider it as an Outlander but £20k cheaper!

I intend to gradually push the range on my iOn to find out how far I can really go in it, though I'll do the finding out within a reasonable radius of home like you Steve. Currently the car's telling me it's got 45mile range on a full battery but that will be based on all the test drives and hacks around by the service department while it's been up for sale at the dealers. It's good to read how people are getting good realistic ranges from their cars.

EVs make ideal runarounds at the moment and as most households these days have more that one car it really does make sense that one of them is an EV. I figured I could not really afford to not save on my fuel bill by not buying an EV despite the fact that what I needed was a car to replace my diesel which I haul various cars around on a trailer and also use as a van with all the seats removed to lug heavy engines about. But I only do this for 3,500 miles in a year.
 

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What you might find is after a couple of full discharge cycles your range will gradually increase.

It seems based on the evidence posted on the LEAF batteries that they like to be discharged quickly and regularly. Hope your iON's battery hasn't been effected by sitting around most of its life. Let us know how you get on with it.
 

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What you might find is after a couple of full discharge cycles your range will gradually increase.

It seems based on the evidence posted on the LEAF batteries that they like to be discharged quickly and regularly. Hope your iON's battery hasn't been effected by sitting around most of its life. Let us know how you get on with it.
I am anticipating that things will settle down, regarding charge and range, once I get it into a regular routine and use. It's going to get a shock in that I'm aiming to use it 7 days a week doing 30 to 40 miles a day.

After a week or two I'll then do a few exploratory circular journeys and see what the range is. 100 miles would be wonderful but the iOn should be fine for my use and save me a fortune that I really had to seize upon.
 
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