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As there are many REX owner reviews I thought I would post my BEV 22Kw owner review for readers.
I bought the Car last year after my work installed EV charge points (they now charge for their use which I did not expect but that is another story) I commute between 34 - 45 miles per day depending on traffic reports.
I live in Salford and commute to Dukinfield the other side of Manchester. Normally I run 23 miles clockwise on the M60 at 70mph and used to travel 11 miles back home via the Mancunian flyover but as the major roadworks are under way I travel the M60 either C/W or Anti C/W back home as well. During summer I was getting around 85 - 95 miles on the GOM and if you remember we had a lovely warm summer so had the AC on all the time. Now we are in the cold spell it has gone gone to between 50 and 60. (Plugged in at work and set to preheat, but overnight outside my house I just point the remote out of the window and set the heater going 10 minutes before I leave to warm the cabin / defrost the windows) I cannot charge at home.
I'm really happy with the car, does everything I want it to do and is fun to drive. Even the Wife likes to take it if I'm not using it as parking is free and charging is free in most towns outside of the City centre.
My only concern now is that it is 3 years old at the end of Feb and with some of the horror stories on "out of warranty" fixes (seems to be with the REX version though) I enquired about the extended warranty. £780 with £100 excess - I don't think so. This has left me thinking about changing the car to another model.
Mine has loads of extras that would tip a similar model over the £40,000 point and the whole idea of changing from my last car was for free road tax. (Mine has pro-sat, aux heating, sun glass and other features) BUT PCP deals are nothing like they were a couple of years ago. I totally understand why due to bad GFV errors but also I think waiting another year or 2 will bring a shed load of changes to EV cars. I've looked at Kia's & Hyundai offering with superb mileage but I would miss the APP for things like checking battery charge or remote heating when I'm out and about on public chargers, I Think Nissan missed a couple of things like active battery management, even on the upcoming longer range Leaf+ (fan cooling only) So I'm thinking of keeping until 2020+
What are your thoughts?
 

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If it suits your needs keeping it and paying the extended warranty sounds like a cheap option compared to changing the car. Repair costs without a warranty can be huge. If you just want a new car then swap.
 

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That £800 for the warranty, x 4 years, is at least what you'd need as a deposit on a new car PCP to get anything like respectable monthlies. You have charging infrastructure that works for you, a vehicle thats high spec and works for you.

Utlimately it might restrict you in range versus the current offering, but if you don't need it then why buy something else
 

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Martin, you have a cracking good car and if the range and local CCS chargers meet your needs, why change.

I'm assuming you know the battery condition. Have you thought about contacting local independent BEV specialists and see what they offer. In your condition I'd be investing in a BMW service tool laptop so you can be informed about any problems that arise and avoid the stealers.

Happy electric motoring.
 

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Some excellent points, Thanks! The only thing I wish is a better range (We only take my wife's car on longer journeys because of the limited range of the 22Kw)
I went into my SOH via hidden menu and the battery is as good as new. I do agree with your point regarding the cost of warranty compared to investing in a newer car. But I think that £800 is a lot of money, BMW definitely overcharging here. I hear that the warranty could not include some items on the BEV, Has anyone been refused any such claim?
I had a bluetooth OBD2 plug that I used to plug into my old car along with the app on my phone. I read that that the BIMMERPOST app works well with the i3. Is this what you mean regarding the service tool?
 

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Martin, don't wish to know too much about your situation, but warranty insurance has an element of being for those that can't afford the alternative, it's not mandatory. Your loss in the event of a super major failure, would in any case be the walk away residual value. If the prospect of that would seriously destroy your quality of life, you need the insurance. If not, put the money into shares....

Great thing for you is that you have eliminated the major unreliability of the REX, fuel system, generator, additional contactors etc etc
 

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I sympathise with your dilemma, it's one I've thought about myself. I bought my car in Dec 2017 with a 3 year warranty, plan was to trade it in at that 3 year point for a 1 year old 120ah rex. Now that's not coming I'm not so sure, maybe I'll go down the 120ah Bev route or wait a year for the market to mature a bit and choice to broaden.
 

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Does anyone know of a part that has been known to fail (excluding very early cars) that would cost in excess of your total warranty payments? I haven't read of anything on here - though admittedly I didn't use to frequent this section all that much.

Also you might want to speak to CK Autocare Independent BMW specialist (off Bury New Rd - near Jct 17 M60) - I used him for a 5 series I once had - his Facebook page showed he's done work on an i3 (edit - no it doesn't - but still worth asking) - at the time he drove a Zoe himself so he knows about the world of EV's. Ultimately for the good of everyone hoping to run a car out of warranty we are going to need independents to get involved. I don't know what he can or can't do - but we need alternatives to main dealers (and 3rd party based insurance warranties).
 

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It is not just the parts cost for a BMW (Break My Wallet) it is the labour rate as well which is typically an eye-watering £220 a hour at a main dealer. My dentist who is a qualified doctor, surgeon and dentist costs less than that but of course he does not offer the so-called 'complimentary' coffee.
 

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So if BMW charge more than a surgeon, for technician level diagnostics and repair, then that is the part of their offer that is "broke", rather than the car itself. So what is the particular part of the technology that an independent could not repair?
 

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Thanks again for all your excellent advice. My car is in BMW tomorrow for it's end of warranty check & MOT. I know it will pass OK as there is no issues whatsoever with the car. After chatting with my wife I'm not going to take out the warranty as the cost of a repair would have to be in excess of £1000 to make it worthwhile. At the end of the day it's only 3 years old with low mileage. I only want to keep the car for max 1 year more as I would like more mileage (I'm sticking with a BEV vehicle as I really do enjoy them). I see the waiting list on the Kia & Hyundai is around 12 months now. I'm thinking of bridging the gap with a 40kw Leaf. At least the prospect of being out of warranty on the Nissan would not keep me awake at night.
Anyone want to downgrade their Leaf (must be a Tekna) to generate some cash? :) or even upgrade with a low mileage 33kw Tekna as long as it has 6kw charger!
 
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