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hi all,

expect to be getting 'my' tesla s ordered in a few weeks time as soon as house sale goes through :) - and so thinking about practical stuff like how to charge it at home.

anyone have any experience of getting a (free) home charger supplied via chargemaster? the tesla guy at the test drive mentioned the better option would be to pay the c. £100 fee and get a 7kw version instead of standard 3.5kw, however also said if i had 3 phase in the building (we dont, but we live in a newly converted building that has 4 other flats - so may be upgradeable) then 22kw might be a possibility, and would obviously charge much more quickly if i went for the dual charge option on the 85kw.

chargemaster salesperson on the phone went blank when i asked her about 3 phase 22kw and said she would get the 'tesla rep' to call me (which never happened).
 

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3 phase in a UK home is rare. However if your flat is in a newly converted ex-industrial building it might already have a 3 phase supply.

I'm not aware of any 3 phase equipment on the UK grants scheme for home use.
 

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3 phase units are not covered by the grant and all 4 flats are likely to be on the same phase.
You can get 3 phase in stalled at home but it will cost.

7kw chargers are now free from both chargemaster and Rolec not sure about the others.

If you do want a 22kw unit @nuWorld Energy sell a ZCW one
 

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@alan denyer very few people require 22kW charging at home but if you decide you really want it (and have a three phase supply) then you can purchase the Charging Station for £620 (inc VAT) from @nuWorld Energy

http://www.nuworldenergy.co.uk/shop/product/type-2-charging-station-untethered-32a-three-phase

I also suggest you read this thread if you are purchasing the Model S (you can probably ignore to if you are leasing);

https://speakev.com/threads/tesla-warranties-and-battery-degradation-whats-the-answer.3835/
 

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Hi All,

We are working on this exact issue for another Tesla client at the moment.

Thus far we have provided a quotation for supply and fit of a three phase 22kW charge station and are exploring whether any of the cost could be offset through the OLEV scheme.

Matthew Morgan is dealing with this and can be reached on: 0113 8155366.
 

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Units up to 22kw and available through the OLEV home charge scheme via electric village and they look sleek! But they are not cheap.
 

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You sitting down....
Single phase socket £1395 cabled £1599
Three phase socket £1699 cabled £1899
Not really for your home charge market more for your client with a 13 berth garage with a P1 and spyder 918 on order person and likes toys. I'll stick to my 3.7kw charger and live in the real world. Comes with pretty lights though...
 

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Forgot to mention prices include vat - cheap as chips! Roll up roll up
 
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No doubt someone will know for sure but I would have thought a modern development of 4 flats would have to have 3 phase. ( I manage an old 6 flat conversion and they won't let me install a landlord meter as there is only single phase which is not up to current spec apparently.....)
 

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@kentish zoe depending upon how the flats are built there may be a three phase incoming supply then this is further split to single phase for each flat. It's not common to have a three phase to new houses as the elecy board calculate each houses max demand as less than 20 amps somehow! They best rethink this when we all go electric. You can ask them for a price to install a three phase supply but it may be cheaper to buy a nissan leaf!
 

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@kentish zoe depending upon how the flats are built there may be a three phase incoming supply then this is further split to single phase for each flat. It's not common to have a three phase to new houses as the elecy board calculate each houses max demand as less than 20 amps somehow! They best rethink this when we all go electric. You can ask them for a price to install a three phase supply but it may be cheaper to buy a nissan leaf!
My old flat (block of 6 built in 2010) was 3 phase supply with two flats on each phase. 100a supply to each flat and 200amp 3 phase breaker.

We investigated adding a second meter (on a seperate account) for 3 phase and the energy supplier was more than happy to accomodate.

Didn't bother in the end as I never got round to fitting 3 phase charging to my conversion - 6.6kw is good enough for my needs.
 

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I have 3 phase available, but couldn't justify the cost vs the benefit. Worse case, I get home with an empty battery and only have a couple of hours to fill it before I need the car for another long trip. In that rare situation I'll need to top up en-route. Not ideal, but also unlikely enough to take the risk.
 

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You sitting down....
Single phase socket £1395 cabled £1599
Three phase socket £1699 cabled £1899
Not really for your home charge market more for your client with a 13 berth garage with a P1 and spyder 918 on order person and likes toys. I'll stick to my 3.7kw charger and live in the real world. Comes with pretty lights though...
Chris, you didn't say that when we ordered one for work ;)

In fairness we did manage to get a full grant for ours from the local council :eek:

(I don't feel particularly guilty about it though, the amount we pay in Workplace Parking Levy more than offsets the grant.)
 

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anyone have any experience of getting a (free) home charger supplied via chargemaster?
We had a 6.6kW one installed before the rules changed. No problem other then a long wait for the installation. 3-phase not a possibility for us (and LEAF can't use it) so I didn't ask.

The upgraded Chargemaster unit is 30Amps. The standard "free" unit is 16Amps or about 3.6kW. About 3.6kW because power depends on voltage as well as current.

30Amps should be enough to recharge a Model S overnight.

Telsa have a nifty calculator. It will be a bit off, as it assumes 7.4kW, while the Chargemaster box is slightly lower. ~7kW depending on the voltage at the charger.

http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/goelectric#charging
 

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I do have 3 phase supply at home (our house had storage heating, and used to be a chicken farm). I toyed with the idea. The fact I couldn't get a grant was the deciding factor in the end.

TBH the single phase 7kW unit has been more than adequate for my needs, but then I rarely do 40 miles a day.
 
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