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FINALLY HERE! Limited consignment of 23.4kWh Renault Influenza battery packs from the Better Place bankruptcy liquidation in Israel. AS IS WHERE IS. No manufacturer support or warranty. No returns and no refunds.

SPECIAL PRICE FOR ONE WEEK ONLY - $3600 until Friday, March 6, 2014 at 12:00 noon.

This is a grab bag. We acquired 72 Renault Fluenze battery packs in like new condition. Each pack contains 48 modules identical in all respects to the Nissan Leaf battery modules. They were made by the same company in Japan, Automotive Energy Corporation.

Each module is 7.5v, 65Ah. This makes a 23.4kWh pack of LiMn2O4 lithium cells available for the price of lead acid batteries.

This battery pack weighs over 600 lbs and will require liftgate for residential delivery. Comes in specially designed cargo carrier.

US - EVTV

EU - EVTV (via New Electric)

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Are they avalible in the uk? I can only see them on the US site
 

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Amazing how boxy this is compared to something like the underfloor Tesla battery packs.
It has a vertical packaging to make it easier to load and unload - the design was driven by a rapid-swap concept that failed to gain momentum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Better_Place

I'd love one of these. But I have no idea where I'd keep it in the house. It'd be great on a trailer though! Imagine - your own 48kWh leaf - even better if someone could rig up a switch that would knock the main battery cables over to the trailer pack when you get a VLBW flashing up!
 

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Unfortunately towing with the Leaf is not legal and will certainly risk invalidating your insurance.

Nice idea tho :)
 

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You can clearly see they're the same cell packs as the Leaf, impressively over engineered pack, understandable given the implementation.
Yeh, fascinating what they could have done with this technology and I have no doubt the DIY crowd will produce some awesome cars and show them the way forward :)
 

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I would love to have battery storage in the house. Ecotricity is developing a turnkey solution that includes batteries, inverter etc. Last I heard was they are testing in preparation for submitting for approval but that can take years!

A better solution IMO is to use the car with a car-2- home system. I am sure they will come but it seems a way off.

If I had space to store these I would certainly get some at that price... it seems great value.

I didn't think it was legal to use a battery storage system to supply the whole house on the same consumer unit as mains because of G83 regs. Am I wrong? Are there G83 (or whatever the code is!) compliant systems that now permit it?
 

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Paul C, are you thinking of Ecotricity's Black Box system?

http://www.ecotricity.co.uk/about-ecotricity/eco-labs/the-black-box

I talked to them about it last week and was told it wasn't for domestic storage, but for grid balancing and cost offsetting. There was no mention of a home storage system being developed by them.


Kevin, like Paul N, Paul C and Andy I would be very interested in a solar storage system (possibly half a dozen of them) based on these or similar battery packs. I don't suppose ZCW has something like that up its sleeve? There's a big market for them, and it's growing.
 

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Kevin, like Paul N, Paul C and Andy I would be very interested in a solar storage system (possibly half a dozen of them) based on these or similar battery packs. I don't suppose ZCW has something like that up its sleeve? There's a big market for them, and it's growing.
Unfortunately, the investment required is well beyond what ZCW can undertake as a charity. However, Mainpine is developing lots of pieces of this technology and my VW conversion will have DC-DC charging for example to explore direct PV charging without an inverter.

Here's an interesting project - DIY ESS Kit
 

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I know Christophe and his DIY ESS - in fact, he sent me an email about the EVTV Fluence sale and suggested you would be interested in knowing about it but he didn't have your address.

Is there anything that could be done to hasten development? I'm not very strong on electronics, but I know programming and have some funds.
 
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