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... as the title says, my E-Niro arrives at the end of next month (ordered on Monday 18th Jan) - can anyone point out any negatives to me ? or suggest any must have accessories to get ? - 5 years ago when I got my first LEAF (24 Kwh) I was given a wall box as part of the deal, but forked out some extra to get a 32A version installed even though the LEAF with its 3.3 charger did not need it, the second LEAF I got after 3 years of EV ownership was a 30 Kwh, but still only had a 3.3 charger, hopefully now I made the right decision then ? - Andy
 

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Order a CAMWIPE for the reversing camera. Regarding charger capacity, it all depends on your daily mileage. You can add roughly 50 miles in 7h off-peak from a 13A plug. And 7kW certainly allows you to squeeze a decent charge into a short low-tariff time slot. Get the PDF version of the manual -- makes searching for things much easier. Negatives? There are some annoying things you can't set as default; for me, AUTO HOLD to ON, LKA to OFF and regen to LEVEL 0 (lowest default is 1 - think petrol engine throttle lift-off response whereas 0 is more like big diesel in high gear) - these may or may not bother you. Worth noting is that LKA does not have to be ON for LFA to work with SCC. Have fun.
 

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What kind of charge point do you have? Earlier Leafs use a Type 1 socket whereas the e-Niro uses Type 2, so if your charge point is tethered it wouldn't be usable with the e-Niro.
 

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What kind of charge point do you have? Earlier Leafs use a Type 1 socket whereas the e-Niro uses Type 2, so if your charge point is tethered it wouldn't be usable with the e-Niro.
..... thankfully I for saw that to as a possible future change and went un-tethered so all good ;) ( I believe the E-Niro comes with a type 2 to type 2 cable ?)
 

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..... thankfully I for saw that to as a possible future change and went un-tethered so all good ;) ( I believe the E-Niro comes with a type 2 to type 2 cable ?)
Yes, it does, but I would suggest that you get yourself an extra cable. In my opinion you need to have one type2-type2 cable in the car at all times. That is the only cable I have regularly used so far (away from home).
 

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It’s slightly bigger than the Leaf, much more room in the backseats. The infotainment is similar, the driver assist features are nice. The GOM is much more realistic and consistent, the instant power screen is not as reactive or useful. There is a lag between applying the accelerator and actually moving/changing the amount of applied torque that the leaf does not have. It feels the same or slower up to ~40mph but after that the Niro does keep pushing power right up until 80mph (or faster, but I haven’t gone faster). The app is more responsive and has more features.
 

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There is a lag between applying the accelerator and actually moving/changing the amount of applied torque that the leaf does not have.
In all modes? I can believe this in Eco mode since it's designed to make the accelerator less responsive but I don't personally feel any lag in Normal/Sport modes. I haven't driven a Leaf though so maybe I just don't notice it!
 

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In all modes? I can believe this in Eco mode since it's designed to make the accelerator less responsive but I don't personally feel any lag in Normal/Sport modes. I haven't driven a Leaf though so maybe I just don't notice it!
Fully agree. Of course, if you use Auto Hold or have applied the parking brake there will be lag. Otherwise, it's instantaneous.
 

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In all modes? I can believe this in Eco mode since it's designed to make the accelerator less responsive but I don't personally feel any lag in Normal/Sport modes. I haven't driven a Leaf though so maybe I just don't notice it!
Personally I think there's a slight lag in normal especially from stand still.
Sport is more extremely responsive that the leaf though - to the point of too being too sensitive.
I personally thing the pedal map couple be better for sport mode. Too sensitive on the first part of the travel.

@rowehillmaster I've followed pretty much the same route with 2 Leafs then an e-Niro.
Even the same with getting a 32A charger which got used precisely twice in 32A mode before the Niro :)
They very similar sizes for size though the "secret" boot space below the mat is nice.
I'm considering a frunk as there's potential to add that as the niro bonnet is quite a lot higher.
Struggling to think of negatives...it's just overall better.
Perhaps eating tyres as the extra power tempts you way too much!
That's entirely down to the driver though :):)
 

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It'll be a treat.
Expect CCS to be less reliable than Chademo though (if you ever need public charging, that is!)
The Leaf has a very immediate accelerator response- and almost everything else I've driven fels a bit softer (comparing "normal" driving modes only). For example Sport mode in the Ioniq was similar to D in my Leaf. The benefit is much longer front tyre life :)
As for Type 1 and 2 tethered, change the plug and cable for a Type 2, assuming you no longer have a car with Type 1. Or, get an adaptor (but they're probably not as safe).
 

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In all modes? I can believe this in Eco mode since it's designed to make the accelerator less responsive but I don't personally feel any lag in Normal/Sport modes. I haven't driven a Leaf though so maybe I just don't notice it!
Yes all modes, particularly noticeable in situations like a roundabout approach when you are balancing the accelerator, then when you decide to go you punch it and....... nothing changes. You go “oh shit, I have to stop inst....” and then the car accelerates. It’s totally different to the leaf where it’s completely instant between pedal and response.
 

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Fully agree. Of course, if you use Auto Hold or have applied the parking brake there will be lag. Otherwise, it's instantaneous.
Then vehicles differs drastically because mine has a large lag.
 

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Yes all modes, particularly noticeable in situations like a roundabout approach when you are balancing the accelerator, then when you decide to go you punch it and....... nothing changes. You go “oh shit, I have to stop inst....” and then the car accelerates. It’s totally different to the leaf where it’s completely instant between pedal and response.
Wow. That description is nothing like mine. Unless of course your road surface has poor friction. Then yes, the moment you boot it and the wheels slip then the traction control will cut in to prevent you smoking away the front tyres (as it should do). That is the only explanation I can think of for your description. Mine is instantaneous except in eco when there is a slight offset dead band at the start of the gas pedal movement. Otherwise I would describe the drive as extremely responsive.
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It’s slightly bigger than the Leaf, much more room in the backseats. The infotainment is similar, the driver assist features are nice. The GOM is much more realistic and consistent, the instant power screen is not as reactive or useful. There is a lag between applying the accelerator and actually moving/changing the amount of applied torque that the leaf does not have. It feels the same or slower up to ~40mph but after that the Niro does keep pushing power right up until 80mph (or faster, but I haven’t gone faster). The app is more responsive and has more features.
You have not gone over 80? I have not kept track, but I know I hit 100 before. Go out and have some fun!

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Yes all modes, particularly noticeable in situations like a roundabout approach when you are balancing the accelerator, then when you decide to go you punch it and....... nothing changes. You go “oh shit, I have to stop inst....” and then the car accelerates. It’s totally different to the leaf where it’s completely instant between pedal and response.
Very peculiar, mine doesn't behave like this at all in Normal or Sport
 

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Yes all modes, particularly noticeable in situations like a roundabout approach when you are balancing the accelerator, then when you decide to go you punch it and....... nothing changes. You go “oh shit, I have to stop inst....” and then the car accelerates. It’s totally different to the leaf where it’s completely instant between pedal and response.
I have a Soul, which AFAIK has. identical motor, gearing etc, and dont recognise that at all.
Main difficulty tends to be wheel spin especially in the wet. And I think a fair bit of that is the standard tyres.
 

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Yes all modes, particularly noticeable in situations like a roundabout approach when you are balancing the accelerator, then when you decide to go you punch it and....... nothing changes. You go “oh shit, I have to stop inst....” and then the car accelerates. It’s totally different to the leaf where it’s completely instant between pedal and response.
Weird. One of the things I like about the car is the confidence it instills in you that, if you press go, you go. What regen level are you using? In level 3, the zero point is quite a long way down the accelerator travel. Is this the problem? I prefer level 0 and, for me, go is instant.
 
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