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Morning guys. After a fair amount of research I have decided to purchase an ampera. I've noticed that prices seem to be between 8-12k but spec seems to vary slightly. I am after an electron model as I want sat Nav. Is there a reason to get a later model due to any sat Nav updates or is the system pretty much the same? I've also noticed the rear arm rest that some models have. I'd like one of those. Can they be added after if the one I find doesn't have it fitted? Is buying a 2012 with low mileage a better bet than say a 2014 with higher mileage?

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The rear arm rest is available on all cars except 2012 models. I don't think you can retrofit and you get a weird back thing.

The entertainment system is mostly the same except for very late model 2014 cars which have a different system. They're rare.

I'd be looking for a 2014 registered car with 2 years left on the Voltec warranty and enough miles to last you too. So you'll need one with full Vauxhall High Voltage service history.

The Electron is the better trim, but the Sat Nav is out of date and only takes XXXX X?? for post codes which is annoying!
 

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A comment on the SatNav, it is no longer supported so I wouldn't expect to see any updates, I'm not sure about the very last of them but they are as rare as hens teeth. Depending on how handy you are there are some people in Europe and the US have added additional hardware behind the dash that will allow you to run Android Auto or Car Play by mirroring your phone.
A later one (probably easiest identified with the rear armrest) also has slightly more battery output due to an internal change and will also have an extra display under the speedo (accessed) by the rotary knob on the right) that will give you a powerflow display.
Check service history and if it is still within the 8 year, 100k mile powertrain warranty try and get it verified by Vauxhall that it is still valid (this in itself could be a fair old task as not all VX staff understand this and might try to fob you off with it only covering the battery. Try and get a good warranty that will cover all this although they do seem to be pretty bulletproof. Also check out HEVRA (independent service places) for one near you and then you can go there for repairs/maintenance.
 

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The advantages of the Electron over the Positiv are small: the satnav is out of date and although the Bose sound system on the Electron is fine, the standard system of the Positiv is still pretty good.

Far more important IMO is to go for a model-year 2013 model over the MY2012. Dont be fooled by year of registration. There were numerous improvements made for the 2013 model year, not so easy to see but important. The MY2013 has the removable armrest between the rear seats.

Of course, mileage and warranty considerations are very important.
 

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Quite a lot to think about then.

I thought it would best best to get the sat Nav as it's better than not having one at all.

I also fancy the rear arm rest.

So think a 2013 year on is the way forward.

There's a decent looking one at perrys and a couple at that rsymons but don't think they have the sat Nav.
 

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Sat nav and bose is the Electron. The Positiv is the same without those, I use a 3rd party sat nav in my positiv stuck on the window.
My12 has no power gauge and the in line cup holders
My13 has the rear armrest and cup holders across the rest.
My14 has a manual charge flap and a different sat nav plus a few other bits and pieces Inc over the air update via WiFi. there are probably only half a dozen my14 about.
A lot of my12 ended up on a 15 plate at the final clear out.
Brilliant car 2012 car of the year, nothing like it still 8 years later.
 

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Quite a lot to think about then.

I take it ev range is the same on all years?

I've heard about the sticking flap thing which I think just needs a good bit of lube 😊.
 

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I have an Ampera and a Volt so don’t overlook the Chevrolet version. Definitely go for the sat nav version if you want a better sound system. The Sat Nav isn’t much good so it’s only the Bose amp that you are actually buying
phone VX head office with the registration plate of any potential purchase and they will confirm what warranty you have left.
 

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I have an Ampera and a Volt so don’t overlook the Chevrolet version. Definitely go for the sat nav version if you want a better sound system. The Sat Nav isn’t much good so it’s only the Bose amp that you are actually buying
phone VX head office with the registration plate of any potential purchase and they will confirm what warranty you have left.
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Psycho Sat nav is rubbish, ignore it. I have it and never use it, Gmaps is so soo sooooo much better.
its the sound system the electron brings. If you like it loud. :)
Also the hdd allows you to full it will your own choice off audio.

I "think" I would go for a MY2013 Positve over a 2012 Electron. but it might be me seeing the grass is greener.

Off course if you can find one an MY2014 is the best choice.

The 8 yr warranty really adds value so thats the third factor, my car has 120K but still loving it.
 

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Why would you want one?

Be rational, not emotional about your choices.

They are all old, complex and very hard to maintain.
 

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Psycho Sat nav is rubbish, ignore it. I have it and never use it, Gmaps is so soo sooooo much better.
its the sound system the electron brings. If you like it loud. :)
Also the hdd allows you to full it will your own choice off audio.

I "think" I would go for a MY2013 Positve over a 2012 Electron. but it might be me seeing the grass is greener.

Off course if you can find one an MY2014 is the best choice.

The 8 yr warranty really adds value so thats the third factor, my car has 120K but still loving it.
Thanks for the advice.
Is the sat Nav really that bad? I assumed it would be easier than having an after market one with wires all over the place. Never been a fan of those and don't want to stick one on the windscreen.
 

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I take it ev range is the same on all years?
Sort of yes, but they squeezed a little more out of the 2013MY cars. Don't expect anything near the quoted figures either way, anything over 30 miles will be a testament to an efficient driving style.
 

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They are also reliable and capable of high mileages. The big elephant in the room is the absence of ongoing support from Vauxhall, meaning that you are reliant on a small number of knowledgeable specialists, GM in the USA for specialist parts in common with the Volt, and some common service items with Astras. Vauxhall had moved on before they were sold to PSA, but even more so since.
 

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Why would you want one?

Be rational, not emotional about your choices.

They are all old, complex and very hard to maintain.
Not really,if you do a basic mechanical course then that will help you with most bits.
Buy a VX nano and you can do the updates/reprogramming of the software on them.
Plenty of YouTube videos to help you keep the old girl in tip-top shape.
 

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Not really,if you do a basic mechanical course then that will help you with most bits.
Buy a VX nano and you can do the updates/reprogramming of the software on them.
Plenty of YouTube videos to help you keep the old girl in tip-top shape.
Good call.

So long as the OP goes into with eyes open and can deal with

- transmission rebuilds
-steering lock faults
-door lock faults
-aircon leaks
-complex cooling systems

Or pay scarce competent dealers.

Other than the above, sound👍
 

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Sort of yes, but they squeezed a little more out of the 2013MY cars. Don't expect anything near the quoted figures either way, anything over 30 miles will be a testament to an efficient driving style.
WHAT?????
Are you kicking?
We get nearly 30 in the worst of winter and average 45 in the summer, careful driving will get you over 50. You would have to drive It like you stole it to get less than 25 miles at any time of year.

The later cars have more battery available to use so you should get more range.
 
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