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Hi, Just found out today that every new Aldi store from 2020 will have a fast charge point for customers. I’m assuming the numbers will depend on how busy the store is, size of car park etc. To be honest I’m not really bothered about quantities so long as I can charge whilst I’m at work ??
 

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I know one store that already has a 7kW fast charger. It's near a Macdonalds that has two fast chargers :) I'm not sure if they are on a network, so no idea if they can control hogging - actually some of the stores do have ANPR, with 90 minute limit.
 

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All of the Aldi stores around me already have 7kW Pod Points. Some are still RFID access but every one I have tried worked fine for me.

I'm not sure I see how much use they really are though. Especially in a small shop like Aldi you're in and out in a rather short period of time. Not even a cafe or anything on site to help pass a little more time if you were willing to wait to take on a little more charge.
 

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All of the Aldi stores around me already have 7kW Pod Points. Some are still RFID access but every one I have tried worked fine for me.

I'm not sure I see how much use they really are though. Especially in a small shop like Aldi you're in and out in a rather short period of time. Not even a cafe or anything on site to help pass a little more time if you were willing to wait to take on a little more charge.
Really?
The announcement must have been in regards to the particular regoon I work on then. Bolton region.
 

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. To be honest I’m not really bothered about quantities so long as I can charge whilst I’m at work ??
I hesitate to ask: as a customer or employee? I already know of one supermarket where the Store Manager treats one of the 7kW posts as his own. The car park attendant told me that it has become the Manager's personal parking space.
 

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Morrisons have been rolling out rapid chargers, and I've seen people on PlugShare, Zap-Map etc complain that they "should install several 7kW chargers instead", completely disregarding the behaviour of people shopping at a supermarket. You're going to be there for 30 minutes, maybe an hour if they have a cafe.

I'd much rather get a proper topup on a charger where people are getting their shopping and going, than dealing with people that use 7kW chargers as their personal charge point from home - which is what happens with the local council fast chargers.
 

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There's an Aldi under construction in Whitchurch Shropshire right now, apparently due to open next April.
Planning application shows a single Chargemaster dual 7kW post with 2 marked spaces in a corner of the carpark.

@Rob Lazenby - Chances are your branch will have the same charging post.
 

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There's an Aldi under construction in Whitchurch Shropshire right now, apparently due to open next April.
Planning application shows a single Chargemaster dual 7kW post with 2 marked spaces in a corner of the carpark.

@Rob Lazenby - Chances are your branch will have the same charging post.
Wow - that will triple the number of 7kW charging points in Whitchurch: progress. Seriously, the new Aldi is situated adjacent to the A41 (Whitchurch Bypass). An ideal spot for a couple of Rapids I would have thought.
 

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Wow - that will triple the number of 7kW charging points in Whitchurch: progress. Seriously, the new Aldi is situated adjacent to the A41 (Whitchurch Bypass). An ideal spot for a couple of Rapids I would have thought.
Maybe someone else is eyeing up the services for a rapid or two?
 

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Just learned that the Aldi currently being re-built in Chester (The one behind the Tesco on Sealand Road) will also have a dual 7kW post installed.
 

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Not heard of 25kW DC chargers. What's the point?
It would reduce the load on the local electricity supply. Half an hour's charge at 25kW while shopping will still give you 50 miles or so, and if it means getting four units instead of two I'd say that's a win.
 

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Not heard of 25kW DC chargers. What's the point? And what would you call them? Semi-rapid?
Logically they could make a lot of sense, but as richa says too expensive.
Basically you could charge at the same rate as on a 3phase 22kw post. So in the time you're doing your shopping receive between 10 and 20 kWh. The site can install twice as many within the same power budget as 50kw units and the reduced charging rate makes it worthwhile for customers to opportunity charge, but discourages travellers / non customers from using them as they are probably to slow to be trying to take a lot of charge from.
 

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Logically they could make a lot of sense, but as richa says too expensive.
Basically you could charge at the same rate as on a 3phase 22kw post. So in the time you're doing your shopping receive between 10 and 20 kWh. The site can install twice as many within the same power budget as 50kw units and the reduced charging rate makes it worthwhile for customers to opportunity charge, but discourages travellers / non customers from using them as they are probably to slow to be trying to take a lot of charge from.
As I see it, the percentage of vehicles that can charge at 22kWh(AC) is far, far lower than those that can charge at 50kWh (or lower) DC and that percentage of AC cars will only decrease over time.
The rise of CCS as the prevalent charging standard in Europe is making high power AC somewhat redundant
From memory, cars like the ID.3 and Corsa are not going to have 22kW AC on board but at most 11kW (3phase)
I'd certainly like to see banks of 10-30 kWh DC chargers at locations where people will natirally stay 2-3 hours. That solves the problem of some cars not accepting 3ph AC charging at all.
 

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banks of 10-30 kWh DC chargers at locations where people will natirally stay 2-3 hours.
I think power shareing charger are better, so as soon as a car reduces it charge rate, the power is freed up for other cars.

Back to Aldi, nothing less then 50kw is worth it for the normal 20 minutes shop at well design supermarket like Aldi.
 
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