Can you clarify how that differs from any other day where if a rapid isn't working the best you'll get is they'll schedule an engineer to come out at some unspecified future date?On New Year's Day I gather there was no support available from Ecotricity for their Electric Highway (unbelievable really.) If the driver had planned to use one of the rapids and couldn't they'd be forced to move on to try another with perhaps little in reserve.
Quite so:This question seems to presuppose that any speed less than warp speed on a motorway is dangerous.
It is a simple fact that many people who drive on motorways have such low standards of vehicle control that they are dangerous at almost any speed, hence the 70 mph limit. As any half decent Instructor will remind you, speed limits are not a target, they are limits to be approached only when safe to do so.
Maybe just how you phrased it, but it sounds to me like you might be guilty of driving without due care and attention. Wouldn't it have been safer to slow down when you saw you were approaching a slow moving vehicle then speed up again once clear of it?The car was in lane 1 doing approx 30mph, we passed at 70mph and went past like it was stood still. (car had 2 people in my passenger said..)
Wow, didn't expect that!
FWIW, everyone who has passed a driving test should be aware of speed limits, they are in the highway code, which is, whilst not a set of laws, a pretty comprehensive guide, not wrapped in red tape!
Nowhere did I state everyone should know everything, I did however offer a 'little' known fact, in the hope it will prevent the further spread of misinformation!
If they're not there there is no opportunity for them to attempt to reboot the charge point, or anything else come to that. Failed phone app? Tough then. It's disgusting. Please stop trying to defend the indefensible.Can you clarify how that differs from any other day where if a rapid isn't working the best you'll get is they'll schedule an engineer to come out at some unspecified future date?
I like the signs on the back of some vans that proudly state that they are legally limited to 70 mph
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On that point we differ. AS far as I am concerned if you are unaware of vehicles in front of you, YOU are driving dangerously. Or do you think that it acceptable to drive at speed into the rear of a broken down vehicle ? or debris on the carriageway?Nobody would expect to suddenly have an obstruction like that and they wouldn't notice the extremely low speed until they got close.
I've had similar experiences in Leaf's aswell. The shocking thing is in one of them an indicated 30 mph was an actual 25-26. I can only imagine going down the motorway at 25ish mph would almost certainly have bad consequences - accident or having collar felt.Another thing that might help is to have accurate speedometers in the cars. The Leaf one over states the true speed considerably. Driving at an indicated 50 results in a road speed of 43-44 in my Leaf (compared to satnav and dashcam GPS indicated speed.) To actually achieve 50 I have to be driving at an indicated speed of 56-57. Way over the recommended 10%.
Also, not long ago motorists were being encouraged to drive at 56mph which normally proves to be the most economical speed with regards to fuel consumption. A Leaf doing 56 is really only doing 50!
Can a Leaf speedo be recalibrated to sort this out?
Maybe it should be re-phrased to say "A motorist who isn't paying much attention would not expect to suddenly have an obstruction like that and they wouldn't notice the extremely low speed until they got close." And given how few motorists on motorways seem to be paying much attention, if I was going that slowly, I would be concerned about getting rear-ended by someone texting/doing their make-up/watching a DVD/dozing. Being in the right wouldn't be much consolation in that circumstance.AS far as I am concerned if you are unaware of vehicles in front of you, YOU are driving dangerously. Or do you think that it acceptable to drive at speed into the rear of a broken down vehicle ? or debris on the carriageway?
I knew there was a use for rear foglightsif I was going that slowly, I would be concerned about getting rear-ended by someone texting/doing their make-up/watching a DVD/dozing. Being in the right wouldn't be much consolation in that circumstance.![]()
I agree with this. As a biker I have a lot of times where I would be in the right but it would risk an accident. Not liking the idea of hospital food or being dead I tend to err on the side of caution and avoid the accident rather than have avoidable problems.Maybe it should be re-phrased to say "A motorist who isn't paying much attention would not expect to suddenly have an obstruction like that and they wouldn't notice the extremely low speed until they got close." And given how few motorists on motorways seem to be paying much attention, if I was going that slowly, I would be concerned about getting rear-ended by someone texting/doing their make-up/watching a DVD/dozing. Being in the right wouldn't be much consolation in that circumstance.![]()
Maybe just how you phrased it, but it sounds to me like you might be guilty of driving without due care and attention. Wouldn't it have been safer to slow down when you saw you were approaching a slow moving vehicle then speed up again once clear of it?
This was news to me. I've had a look at EU member states and find the limits vary from 70km/h to 100km/h, further, I can find no mention of an EU mandated limit.Nope it's an EU thing, speed limiters are required to be set at 90kph which is ........ 56mph.
I was just reading this doc - https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/380983/Consultation_Response_Report.pdfThis was news to me. I've had a look at EU member states and find the limits vary from 70km/h to 100km/h, further, I can find no mention of an EU mandated limit.
Do you have a link to a gov or EU site?
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If there was a minimum speed limit, otherwise no. If you had an early classic car with a top speed of around 40 there's nothing to prevent you using a motorway. In fact when the motorways were built it would not have been unusual to experience this (how peoples' expectations have changed!) If anyone has difficulty spotting a slow moving vehicle perhaps they shouldn't be on the motorway themselves as any car can have a sudden problem necessitating reducing speed at any time, if one runs into the back of it it is they who would be at fault for driving without due care and attention. Probably mobile-phone-itus.I expect that doing 30 (or any speed under 50) on a motorway due to charge issues would be considered dangerous driving
and lead to an instant and successful appeal on a point of Law.I expect that doing 30 (or any speed under 50) on a motorway due to charge issues would be considered dangerous driving, as the driver chose to enter a motorway knowing they could not drive in a safe way. (And/or choose not to leave at the first junction or service area.)
If I was one of the 12 voting on a charge of “death by dangerous driving”, based on a EV driver doing this, I know what way I would vote…..
Highway Code said:Prohibited vehicles.
I presume the 'certain slow-moving vehicles' mainly refers to agricultural vehicles such as tractors.Motorways MUST NOT be used by pedestrians, holders of provisional motorcycle or car licences, riders of motorcycles under 50 cc, cyclists, horse riders, certain slow-moving vehicles and those carrying oversized loads (except by special permission), agricultural vehicles, and powered wheelchairs/powered mobility scooters