[cjm_2013]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/leaf/88344/nissan-leaf-to-get-sharp-new-look-and-range-boost

Apologies if this has already been posted...!

It looks pretty decent. And double the battery size.... Put me down for one.

 

[Paul]

Pretty fugly Auto Express Photoshop IMHO.

 

[Matt Beard]

I hope the reversing camera is standard on this - the rear visibility looks to be awful!

 

[Derekosb]

As usual with Auto Express the end product will barely resemble the "rendering"

Derek

 

[flipper]

Pretty fugly Auto Express Photoshop IMHO.

Yes, but unusually they don't say "our exclusive images show *how it could look*" which normally indicates it's completely made up.
I still wouldn't trust an AE image but it'll be interesting to see how close this is to reality.

 

[Eunicholas]

Lol it's funny beaucse the zoe is coming with 186 miles of range

 

[Paul_Moxhay]

Looks like it is inspired by the shape of the Qashqai... I like it!

Don't suppose it will end up anything like it though if pre-production graphic mock-ups are anything to go by

 

[flipper]

186 is also exactly 1.5 x 124 - the current claimed range, so I reckon we're looking at 130 miles real world range.

 

[semach.the.monkey]

186 miles is also exactly 299.34km. Or, to put it another way, 300km is about 186 miles

 

[Jason Wallace]

Well I like the look of this car. Release of 2016 works well for me as my LEAF ends its lease Feb 2017. If it looks like that then Nissan can add me to the list

 

[astewardson]

I dont like it.
Where is the charge port flap at the front? Why does an EV need such a huge grill??

 

[Eunicholas]

Well the zoe goes back in 2016 so it looks like I might get a leaf

 

[flipper]

186 miles is also exactly 299.34km. Or, to put it another way, 300km is about 186 miles

And, of course, 124 miles is 200km... I think I see what they're doing here!

 

[flipper]

I dont like it.
Where is the charge port flap at the front? Why does an EV need such a huge grill??

I wouldn't be susprised if the chargepoint is at the front still - no reason why that can't be hinged.

I think people like grills - regardless of whether they are needed. There was a trend a few years ago to drop grills - the best place for cooling is to have them lower (if I recall correctly) so lots of manufacturers dropped the higher grill, but the public prefers their grill to be higher (apparently) so they made a come-back and are now very much part of brand identity.

 

[leave]

They keep banging on about this "new battery technology". Where's that coming from?
Elon is planning on making incremental changes to boost capacity, but that'll be over the next few years.
If Nissan & Renault are going to add 50% more range, the only way to do it is with 50% more battery.
Just like, err, Tesla.

 

[Edd Beesley]

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/leaf/88344/nissan-leaf-to-get-sharp-new-look-and-range-boost

Apologies if this has already been posted...!

It looks pretty decent. And double the battery size.... Put me down for one.

Sadly it's not double, it's taking the current NEDC range of 124 miles (200km) to 186 miles (300km). For the actual battery, that sounds like an increase from 24kwh to ~36kwh, maybe a little less.

This much can be achieved with an increase in energy density, (8% per year from 2010 to 2015) so I expect the battery to be the same shape, size, weight, location - which should make it backwards compatible to old Leafs too....

Of course, the NEDC is wildly optimistic, so real world range might be more like 120 miles.

 

[kentish zoe]

Lol it's funny beaucse the zoe is coming with 186 miles of range

Looks like nissan and renault will still be sharing battery tech so suits me too as our zoe lease is up in May 2017. Estate version with light towing capability please in tesla red?

 

[Paul]

Isn't the Photochop mostly Mazda?

 

[Steve Thayne]

Sadly it's not double, it's taking the current NEDC range of 124 miles (200km) to 186 miles (300km). For the actual battery, that sounds like an increase from 24kwh to ~36kwh, maybe a little less.

This much can be achieved with an increase in energy density, (8% per year from 2010 to 2015) so I expect the battery to be the same shape, size, weight, location - which should make it backwards compatible to old Leafs too....

Of course, the NEDC is wildly optimistic, so real world range might be more like 120 miles.

It is more doable if the improvements talked about elsewhere in r and d to stop the anode cracking and reducing life cycle are realised.

Because the current batteries have some capacity held back to protect the life of the battery which would be lessened by full discharge.

Remove or reduce this risk and you have an increased usable battery capacity from the same chemistry in the same size battery

And possibly faster rapid charging right up to 100%....

 

[markweatherill]

I think there's a little hint of BMW i3 towards the rear quarters of this flight of fantasy.