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Many human activities have the potential to harm the environment but most governments are taking measures to minimise this. This does have cost constraints so it is not possible to eliminate all of the harmful processes now. Wind and solar power are eminently sustainable and are reasonably cost effective. What is needed now is the technology to harness and use the electrical energy produced in a way that minimises harm and does not add significant cost. New battery technologies and metal recovery will be part of that.
 

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As arguably are synthetic fuels. But the bottom line is that emissions from engines are not the only emissions that travel causes, and we may have to accept a reduction in travel in the future to be sustainable.

The urban myth of the Great horse manure crisis of 1894 is a useful analogy in this case.
 

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Just your normal FUD, you can recycle or re-use Lithium Ion batteries you can't with Coal. I'll agree all resource mining has an environmental cost but what a lot of these FUD pieces miss is that the majority mass of the battery is in the Nickel and this is much more like coal mining. However the majority of Nickel is used for stainless steel at 66% whereas batteries only consume 2% although this will probably rise a lot in the coming years, but they probably don't want to draw attention to that :)

Nickel Cobalt Aluminium (NCA) and Nickel Manganese Cobalt (NMC) use 80% and 33% nickel respectively; newer formulations of NMC are also approaching 80% nickel. Most Li-ion batteries now rely on nickel.
 

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I think its funny they talk about Synthetic fuels to power their 911 Porshe and Diesel Golf's because the other side of synthetic fuels is creating Hydrogen from Renewable energy and electrolysis of water and then using the hydrogen and reacting it with Carbon to produce Green Kerosene which could be used to power aircraft in a sustainable way. However instead they want to use the Hydrogen directly in the aircraft which I think is just pushing the problem further down the road as the technology isn't ready yet but converting aircraft to Green Kerosene is. The problem with Green Kerosene is it costs on average 5x as much as regular fossil fuel derived Kerosene and that is probably why only Formula 1 will be using Synthetic fuels in the future.
 

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A typically biased view from Steve Sutcliffe in the AutoExpress Opinion column knocking EVs due to the environmental damage of Lithium extraction (a reasonable point) and bigging up alternative fuels as a panacea whilst ignoring any issues with them.

“Our rush to electric cars may harm the environment and snuff out valuable alternatives” | Auto Express
The silly article talks a lot about the amount of water needed to extract the lithium containing brine.

OK, like extracting crude oil via fracking requires NO WATER (not)
 

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It’s just an opinion piece from an automotive journalist dinosaur, playing to the peanut gallery that is the readership at large.

They never seem to compare the various forms of automotive power properly, it’s always biased, always cherry picked.

To be honest, I’ve no idea how that cockroach of a car mag is still going!
 

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Had the transition to us all driving electric one day started with the simply acknowledgement that electric motors would do a better job of turning the wheels than any mechanical link to the power source we would be in the midst of an evolution instead of the revolution we have today.
Toyota rested on their laurels with parallel hybrids and all the other legacy auto makers looked on as Tesla grew hoping they would fail.
So had we been evolving the discussions would be all about direct drive vs electric motor, a bit like FWD vs RWD. All the silliness of how the electricity is produced, how the batteries are produced or disposed of, etc would not be mentioned.
I also like to think we would be quite a bit further advanced and certainly using less fossil fuel but anyway trying to promote alternative fuels now when the horse has bolted is just nostalgia talking.
 

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But F1 doesn't have an option but to continue using liquid fuels and if they want to be carbon neutral which is good green washing for their sponsors they have no alternative but synthetic fuels. Alessandro Agag and Jean Todt who came up with Formula E were granted exclusive rights by the FIA to Electric Formula class for 20 years. Obviously in the beginning F1 were all laughing at him, but he who laughs last laughs longest! :LOL:
 

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As arguably are synthetic fuels. But the bottom line is that emissions from engines are not the only emissions that travel causes, and we may have to accept a reduction in travel in the future to be sustainable.

The urban myth of the Great horse manure crisis of 1894 is a useful analogy in this case.
It is the respirable particulates from exhaust fumes that is the biggest immediate health risk. Whether synthetic fuels have a place will largely depend on economics. Wind and solar are pretty cheap as some Octopus customers know. Storing the off peak power will be a significant problem.
 

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It is the respirable particulates from exhaust fumes that is the biggest immediate health risk. Whether synthetic fuels have a place will largely depend on economics. Wind and solar are pretty cheap as some Octopus customers know. Storing the off peak power will be a significant problem.
Don't disagree with your points, just to remind that there are two separate issues linked to automotive exhaust gas emissions.
One is global warming and the other is respiratory illnesses caused by particulates.
The first is an environmental issue, the second a public health issue.

This gets confused a lot as being one and the same issue.
 

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As arguably are synthetic fuels. But the bottom line is that emissions from engines are not the only emissions that travel causes, and we may have to accept a reduction in travel in the future to be sustainable.

The urban myth of the Great horse manure crisis of 1894 is a useful analogy in this case.
The solution for the horse manure problem would have been to put it into empty coal trains going back to Yorkshire. It could then have been spread on rhubarb. We have custard on ours.
 

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Why does he pitch it like EVs are big industry trying to ‘snuff out’ upcoming technologies? Big Oil has been doing that for decades and is the most likely backer of synthetic fuel if they retain control of some of the supply chain. Hardly David vs Goliath. If alternative technology is good enough it’ll break through
 
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