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Hi all,

I’ve just bought my first EV, a 2015 ZE, but I can’t decide whether to buy out the battery lease or not, at a cost of £2100. Going forward I’m predicting a very low milage use of less than 5000 per year and the existing mileage on the battery is just 15,000 miles so I am hoping to get ten years out of the battery. However I’m also not sure if this is at all realistic... I was hoping that some posters here might share their advise, experience and recommendations. Would be very much appreciated.
 

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I think the battery will last 10 years.

So battery lease for 10 years at £49 per month equals £5,880.

Versus buying out the lease for £2,100...
 

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As above, 10 years from the battery on a Zoe should definitely be possible.

As long as you are realistic with your expectations of range it's fine. Batteries do degrade over time. If you are wanting to do 60+ miles with it every day in all weather then it will definitely be a struggle as it ages. But for the average 20-30 miles that the average person does I definitely wouldn't be worried about long term lifespan at all.

Anyone buying a battery lease Zoe who intends to keep the car long term should buy it out ASAP for maximum savings, once satisfied that the battery is good and not moments away from being eligible for a warranty claim. Your situation shouldn't be any exception.
 

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As above, 10 years from the battery on a Zoe should definitely be possible.

As long as you are realistic with your expectations of range it's fine. Batteries do degrade over time. If you are wanting to do 60+ miles with it every day in all weather then it will definitely be a struggle as it ages. But for the average 20-30 miles that the average person does I definitely wouldn't be worried about long term lifespan at all.

Anyone buying a battery lease Zoe who intends to keep the car long term should buy it out ASAP for maximum savings, once satisfied that the battery is good and not moments away from being eligible for a warranty claim. Your situation shouldn't be any exception.
Hello and thanks for your reply. Yourself and the above poster are definitely helping to reassure me that buying out the lease is the right move. I will be doing very low range driving in addition to low overall mileage. Easily under 10-20 miles a day for the most part. I suppose it’s just the fear that the battery dies suddenly and unexpectedly that has held me back from the purchase.
 

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I suppose it’s just the fear that the battery dies suddenly and unexpectedly that has held me back from the purchase.
That could happen (like with any car), but the good news is there are more garages springing up that can do repairs on battery cells.

So if you do have a problem in the future it’s more than likely that you’ll have a specialist you can replace the whole pack with a used one or fix the individual cell.
 

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Should you need to in the future there will be people who will be able to bring back some of the life of your battery by replacing degraded cells. They may even be able to increase the range by adding upgraded cells or battery extensions. Have a look at the James and Kate videos on YouTube. Especially the ones where James is working at Cleevely's garage. (anyone know if that's now his full time job?)
 
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. Especially the ones where James is working at Cleevely's garage. (anyone know if that's now his full time job?)
I believe James & Kate live in Hinckley, Leicestershire, so that's a hell of a commute. (I don't think there's much chance of popping in at lunchtime to find Kate dropping off his lunch.) :)
 

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I believe James & Kate live in Hinckley, Leicestershire, so that's a hell of a commute. (I don't think there's much chance of popping in at lunchtime to find Kate dropping off his lunch.) :)
Ah yes. Didn't put 2 and 2 together. It's really interesting to watch those videos. So much better than a review of yet another car.
 

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Should you need to in the future there will be people who will be able to bring back some of the life of your battery by replacing degraded cells. They may even be able to increase the range by adding upgraded cells or battery extensions. Have a look at the James and Kate videos on YouTube. Especially the ones where James is working at Cleevely's garage. (anyone know if that's now his full time job?)
I actually didn’t know that this is even an option so good to know. It seems like a battery declining is not the end of the world so I’ll probably buy out the lease.
 

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2.1k for a 2015 Zoe battery?

Even if that's an early 2015, that's a great price.

Get it bought, but maybe check the SOH first just to give some peace of mind 👍
 

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2.1k for a 2015 Zoe battery?

Even if that's an early 2015, that's a great price.

Get it bought, but maybe check the SOH first just to give some peace of mind 👍
Yes I wondered if Renault are just wanting to get out of their leases now or if batteries are coming down in price or something. Off to pick the vehicle up today so will check the SOH just to make sure it’s not that!
 

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Yes I wondered if Renault are just wanting to get out of their leases now or if batteries are coming down in price or something. Off to pick the vehicle up today so will check the SOH just to make sure it’s not that!
The offer price is purely based on age of the battery.

RCI will ultimately wish to unwind themselves from all of the battery lease contracts - like with their cars.

But I think the price you’ve been quoted is as low as it will go for now.
 

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It's a very good price for a 2015 car. I've heard of 2.1k for a 2013 car, but not a 2015.

If you have it in writing, SOH withstanding, I'd go for it.
 

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Silly question maybe but how do you actually check the SOH?
Ideally with a OBD dongle and CanZE app if you want to get the accurate number. But you can get a rough idea by doing a 2 pedal reset after a full charge and working out the percentage of capacity loss that way too.
 

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So I have spent about a week with the new van. I seem to be getting about 60-80 miles on a single charge. I gather that EV batteries typically perform worse in the cold though So maybe I can expect an uptick in performance when the weather gets a bit warmer.
 

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So to recap you've bought a 5 year old Zoe and you aim to run it to 15 years old? While the battery is likely to largely hold up ok, all it would take is for one or two cells to fail or register a low voltage and the car won't go. Expensive fix if you've bought out the pack. But possibly worth the risk if you only do low mileage. However I'd say how many 15 year old Clios do you see on the road these days? What kind of condition are they?
 

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So to recap you've bought a 5 year old Zoe and you aim to run it to 15 years old? While the battery is likely to largely hold up ok, all it would take is for one or two cells to fail or register a low voltage and the car won't go. Expensive fix if you've bought out the pack. But possibly worth the risk if you only do low mileage. However I'd say how many 15 year old Clios do you see on the road these days? What kind of condition are they?
Well ‘hope’ being the operative word. If I get five decent years out of it that will be fine. Obviously in terms of buying the battery lease out (which I have yet to do) I would need more than five years to make that decision cost effective.

I’m hoping that my very low mileage will help preserve it and maybe in five - 10 years time costs and availability on batteries will have come down a bit too...
 

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Expensive fix if you've bought out the pack.
There are currently specialists who replace individual cells on Leafs at a very reasonable price.

The problem with the Zoe is it has so few pack failures that there hasn't been enough business for these specialists.

However I know you live in hope that this might change. ;)
 
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