[BasilTheLeaf]

I just bought a used 2013 Nissan leaf in April this year. Carfax shows no previous issues. Yesterday I plugged it into an evgo charger using the chademo plug. I tried to lock the charger and it stopped my charging session. Tried to plug it back in 3 more times (2 at the same one and one in a different charger) and said "charge failed" with an error about something with not being able to make a connection. Car went into turtle mode with a lot of lights on the dashboard. Bought a new 12v battery as I thought that was the problem, car still in turtle mode so had to get it towed back home. Car doesn't connect to homes jplug either. When I plug it In, it beeps once but none of the indicator lights turn on. On the dash, the car will show the charging icon but will disappear after a few minutes. Not sure what to do here. I'm thinking there's something wrong with the charge socket. When I locked it, maybe something jammed that's causing the car to think it's still plugged in. Any and all input would be great as I'm hard stuck on what to do.

 

[Tandy0]

Maybe try leaving the 12v disconnected overnight? That seems to solve a multitude of sins in other cars.

 

[Chrisb]

I have read that failed charges can trigger an error that induces Turtle mode, clearing the fault codes with Leafspy etc can cure it.
Maybe the 12v disconnect tip as mentioned may do the trick also.

Turtle mode due to attempted charge. How to reset? - My Nissan Leaf Forum

mynissanleaf.com

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

We figured something might be wrong with the 12v as well so we replaced it. Left it unplugged for about 20 minutes. It was definitely the failed charger that caused this though (the one I used it notorious for breaking down, esp for chademo). After replacing the battery, I cleared all DTCs last night before the tow and got it off turtle mode for a few seconds but I still wasn't able to shift my car out of P or N. I haven't messed with anything since we got it home minus trying to plug it into the jplug and I had to be up and out early. If it didn't solve itself already by the time I get back home I'll try leaving the 12v unplugged all night and report back. Thank you guys!

 

[Mcxmcx]

I had similar situation with one during purchase process.

First show working, drive to charger (3kw), charging etc, and second day when we come with money: no option to D / R, not starting etc, not charging anyway.

12V battery dead, after replacement also not working, code cleared etc.

At end transaction not finished, and if I remember repair was beyond value.

Car from Bootle.

If this help, you mayby have more luck.

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[Tandy0]

Basil, also maybe try putting the new 12v on a trickle charger overnight, if you have one. (Just in case it's gone a bit flat on the shelf.)

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

Okay guys, I left the 12v unplugged for a day. Still no luck. Attaching picture of the errors on the dash here that I'm still getting. I also checked leafspy for fault codes with the charger plugged in so hopefully any of you guys can help me understand what they mean. I've cleared them and the turtle icon and car with exclamation point icon go away but come back when I restart the car so that's no help. I'm getting a little desperate at this point so I'm scheduling an appointment with Nissan ASAP since it seems like nothing I can do at home will work. Also something else to note is when I plug in the charger, the car beeps once but none of the blue charging indicator lights turn on. The green charging icon on the dashboard still displays so I'm gonna leave the charger plugged in for a few hours to see if it does anything. Still assuming that plugging in the Chademo in the first place is the reason why this all started so I have no idea what went wrong there

 

[Tandy0]

Have you got a granny charger to try, Basil?

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

Have you got a granny charger to try, Basil?

Yes it's plugged in right now

 

[Mark I]

I worry about the DTC C1A62 0108 BRAKE Control Mod Pwr Supply BR-53 in that list. There is some sort of backup power unit for the electric power-assisted brakes, I think a small rechargeable battery as backup for a 12V power failure. The DTC might be reporting a problem involving that backup power brick: if so, it might need a specialist to diagnose and fix. I would not blame the car for refusing to move if it thinks there is something which will prevent the brakes from stopping it again.

Then again, I'm no professional and my guess may be worth less than you have paid me for it.

 

[badmanwimmaculatelips]

Yes it's plugged in right now

Fingers crossed that charge goes in via the granny.
Your first post speculated that the car might think it was still being charged via the chademo - this seems unlikely as this would likely trigger the 'car plugged in and charging' light. But that is one of the few lights that isn't lit...

The error codes for the onboard charger - this may be a bit odd to arise from the chademo as that doesn't use the onboard charger - and if the granny lead results in charging then it would suggest that the onboard is working.

I'd suggest recharging the 12v (preferably check the battery is really in good shape...under load) and leaving the car unconnected for a few hours and re-connecting. Then, turn it on and off a few times with the start button. Leave it off a few minutes each time. Then, do another round of clearing the fault codes with Leafspy. If that all fails - Nissan.

Good luck.

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

Fingers crossed that charge goes in via the granny.
Your first post speculated that the car might think it was still being charged via the chademo - this seems unlikely as this would likely trigger the 'car plugged in and charging' light. But that is one of the few lights that isn't lit...

The error codes for the onboard charger - this may be a bit odd to arise from the chademo as that doesn't use the onboard charger - and if the granny lead results in charging then it would suggest that the onboard is working.

I'd suggest recharging the 12v (preferably check the battery is really in good shape...under load) and leaving the car unconnected for a few hours and re-connecting. Then, turn it on and off a few times with the start button. Leave it off a few minutes each time. Then, do another round of clearing the fault codes with Leafspy. If that all fails - Nissan.

Good luck.

Still failed via granny. Scheduling an appointment for sometime tomorrow hopefully sigh

 

[Garryhills]

Okay guys, I left the 12v unplugged for a day. Still no luck. Attaching picture of the errors on the dash here that I'm still getting. I also checked leafspy for fault codes with the charger plugged in so hopefully any of you guys can help me understand what they mean. I've cleared them and the turtle icon and car with exclamation point icon go away but come back when I restart the car so that's no help. I'm getting a little desperate at this point so I'm scheduling an appointment with Nissan ASAP since it seems like nothing I can do at home will work. Also something else to note is when I plug in the charger, the car beeps once but none of the blue charging indicator lights turn on. The green charging icon on the dashboard still displays so I'm gonna leave the charger plugged in for a few hours to see if it does anything. Still assuming that plugging in the Chademo in the first place is the reason why this all started so I have no idea what went wrong there
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It's probably a stuck relay.

Anyhow, here is the procedure:

Nissan Leaf. Manual - part 573

If I were you, I would go to a Chademo charger and do a few charge/discharge cycles to see if the relay can come unstuck.
Otherwise locate the relay and try to tap it.

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

It's probably a stuck relay.

Anyhow, here is the procedure:

Nissan Leaf. Manual - part 573

Seems like it yeah. Thank you for the link! I scheduled an appointment with Nissan for tomorrow morning so I'll let them know this seems like the most likely problem!

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

Welp guys I guess I got some of the worst news? Semi-worst news? Either way it's not looking good for my wallet. Took it to the Nissan dealership yesterday morning and got a call back saying it's a stuck relay and they have to replace 8 parts??? Will put all part numbers here in case anyone knows what they are since that's all he gave me. The main one he said was the Power supply module which is gonna be around $2k to replace if I can find it on my own, or $4k if he gets the part. I only bought this car for $8k so I'm big sad.

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[Garryhills]

Welp guys I guess I got some of the worst news? Semi-worst news? Either way it's not looking good for my wallet. Took it to the Nissan dealership yesterday morning and got a call back saying it's a stuck relay and they have to replace 8 parts??? Will put all part numbers here in case anyone knows what they are since that's all he gave me. The main one he said was the Power supply module which is gonna be around $2k to replace if I can find it on my own, or $4k if he gets the part. I only bought this car for $8k so I'm big sad.

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I feel for you but if the car can be moved, try what I suggested above.
Clear DTC's, try to charge at a Chademo charger, if it works keep it charging.
If that doesn't work, try identifying the stuck relay, tap it hard without damaging the housing or the base, then try charging again.
You have to do it on a Chademo charger, it's pointless trying it at home.
If it doesn't work at a random charger, try it at the charger that caused the fault.

Come back if this doesn't work, I'll tell you where you can find a mountain of Nissan Leaf spare parts from breakers.

 

[Tandy0]

Basil, do you really need to use rapid charging? I wonder if you could just do what Garry suggests regarding releasing the relay, and from then on, only use the granny?

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

I feel for you but if the car can be moved, try what I suggested above.
Clear DTC's, try to charge at a Chademo charger, if it works keep it charging.
If that doesn't work, try identifying the stuck relay, tap it hard without damaging the housing or the base, then try charging again.
You have to do it on a Chademo charger, it's pointless trying it at home.
If it doesn't work at a random charger, try it at the charger that caused the fault.

Come back if this doesn't work, I'll tell you where you can find a mountain of Nissan Leaf spare parts from breakers.

Car doesn't run and it's still at the dealership right now because I had to get it towed there. When this first happened last week we tried all of that above minus tapping the stuck relay (tried charging at charger that caused the fault, tried charging at different chademo charger as well since we were in a lot that had evgo (the one that caused it) and ElectrifyAmerica (sorry i know most of you guys replying to me here are UK based), even cleared DTCs between). It's a bit hard to do experimental things on my own since we got it towed to my house first and then towed to the dealership so a nissan tech could take a look at it as we couldn't let it sit in the lot and it doesn't move (car won't go into ready mode at all). Im hoping just replacing the PDM would fix altogether and it won't be something I'd have to worry about in the future since I did buy the car used and 9 years old, who knows what happened in the timeframe between me and the 2 previous owners.

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

Basil, do you really need to use rapid charging? I wonder if you could just do what Garry suggests regarding releasing the relay, and from then on, only use the granny?

I don't really need it but there are some instances where I do have to rapid charge for a top up before heading home otherwise I wouldn't make it (car only gets 65-75miles (105 - 120km give or take) on a charge with 10 bars remaining). If anything, replacing the whole PDM would give me peace of mind that it wouldn't happen again, at least anytime soon, and I can go back to using the chademo instead of being scared that the relay would get stuck again.

 

[BasilTheLeaf]

I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who replied to me in this thread. This is the first car I've bought on my own and the first EV in our family. I knew and understood the risks I would be taking and the financial burdens I would have to bear if anything went wrong. I think this is probably the worst case scenario (actually could be worse so I'm thankful that the car is still fixable). I'm hoping with the replacement of the PDM, the car will work without any problems from here on out but I'll report back and possibly mark this thread as "solved" within the next month in case anyone in the future runs into the same problem. Again, thank you all so much for your input and knowledge! The leaf community is amazing!