[Alexander Sims]

From the couple of months winter work I did in the London store, I got a bit of an idea about this although I doubt I was told every last detail...
We were generally shifting 5-10 Model S' per week. Sometimes more, sometimes less...
The CHAdeMO adapter was sold initially and had to be withdrawn because demand has been too great actually. I guess that the same all across Europe, maybe they have decided to focus on a smaller number of countries initially. We were told that they will come back in the market in the future though.

 

[Alexander Sims]

Or fill the smaller cars quicker so we don't need to stand around drinking coffee and looking at our phones for so long. Even Kia Soul EV has just been released with 100kW CHAdeMO interface...

If that were a leaf you'd be at 80% before you'd even paid for your coffee....


I saw the 'blue' model S adapter for real today. Looked quite a neat bit of kit. I wonder if it would work in another type 2 vehicle?

Or fill the smaller cars quicker so we don't need to stand around drinking coffee and looking at our phones for so long. Even Kia Soul EV has just been released with 100kW CHAdeMO interface...

If that were a leaf you'd be at 80% before you'd even paid for your coffee....


I saw the 'blue' model S adapter for real today. Looked quite a neat bit of kit. I wonder if it would work in another type 2 vehicle?

From the couple of months winter work I did in the London store, I got a bit of an idea about this although I doubt I was told every last detail...
We were generally shifting 5-10 Model S' per week. Sometimes more, sometimes less...
The CHAdeMO adapter was sold initially and had to be withdrawn because demand has been too great actually. I guess that the same all across Europe, maybe they have decided to focus on a smaller number of countries initially. We were told that they will come back in the market in the future though.

I don't see any reaso why it wouldn't work on other type 2 cars... I've tried the leaf j1772 cable with my Roadster and the adaptor and it works perfectly well. I would assume that the charging protocol is much the same, perhaps some minor differences that could cause issues but I'd chance it if I had the opportunity!

 

[Alexander Sims]

The Model S can charge at up-to 22kW on AC, but 135kW on DC. CHAdeMO is DC, normally at 50kW. I suspect that the Model S adaptor gives the car the 50kW DC and manages the CHAdeMO communications to the charger. This means that you will only be able to use it with cars that take in high-current DC on a type-2 connector and that seems to be limited to the Euro-spec Model S.

Totally understand Matt but @snofsberry was talking about the Blue adaptor which I assume is 32 amp 240v 7kw AC... Therefore I would think it's reasonable to consider it might work with a Renault Zoe and BMW i3 and any other car with type 2...

 

[Alexander Sims]

Why should Tesla owners get to have a.Chademo adaptor? No really you have the expanding super charger network, surely this should be your means of charging.

If this is happening there should be an adaptor for a super charge to CHAdeMO, honestly it should work both ways!!!

As a non Tesla owner it seems you're all having your cake and eating it.

I'm only commenting on the UK, but I guess the difference is that the CHAdeMO charge points are for public use and therefore everybody has equal rights to use them. You have Nissan, Mitsubuishi, Citroen etc. however the Tesla Superchargers have been funded entirely by Tesla themselves. Additionally it uses the same Type 2 plug/socket to deliver 120kW which no other car can get close to.

They seem totally open to working with other manufacturers so if you have a gripe, it should be aimed at Nissan, Mitsubuishi, BMW etc for not working with Tesla to use their technology. All their cars can receive DC charging but with the systems out there they are compatible with, 50kW seems to be the maximum. Once there are bigger batteries in their cars like Tesla then they can probably receive higher charge rates and then hopefully the CHAdeMO/CCS will be pushed further so they still give a 30min recharge time....