Charge time

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John50

Discussion Starter · Mar 14, 2021

Hi all
Newbie to the forum and first time EV owner .
purchased a Kia Niro 4+ on March 1st , love the car but slightly concerned about the charge time . I eventually went for a 7kw pod point charger as when researching there web site it shows a charge time of 9hr, my car takes over 20hrs depending on how low it is to get to 100% .
the display on my car shows 7kw when plugged in . Is this normal ,is the Pod-Point website wrong or am I missing something.
thanks for your help

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Todor

· #2 · Mar 14, 2021

John50 said:
Hi all
Newbie to the forum and first time EV owner .
purchased a Kia Niro 4+ on March 1st , love the car but slightly concerned about the charge time . I eventually went for a 7kw pod point charger as when researching there web site it shows a charge time of 9hr, my car takes over 20hrs depending on how low it is to get to 100% .
the display on my car shows 7kw when plugged in . Is this normal ,is the Pod-Point website wrong or am I missing something.
thanks for your help

Why 100%? Do you need it every day?
Also, 20hr at 7kW is roughly 140kWh... That's some overcharging. You need to check your setup, your car should be charging at around 10% per hour when connected to a 7kW charger. Couple of things to consider:

it could be the charger;
it could be the car;

Test them separately to find out which.

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John50

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 14, 2021

Hi

thanks for the reply . My car was on 35% and started charging at 10 last night ,this morning still showing had 8 hr to go . This is only the second time I have charged it and both times the same

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Todor

· #4 · Mar 14, 2021 (Edited)

John50 said:
Hi

thanks for the reply . My car was on 35% and started charging at 10 last night ,this morning still showing had 8 hr to go . This is only the second time I have charged it and both times the same View attachment 142010

According to that screen:

you have a charging schedule on?
your car is connected/charging at 2.3kW? Which is 10A.
Are you sure you are not connected to your granny charger at the moment?
Are you sure you don't have a power limit set in the car/charger?
It matches exactly, so it is a setting somewhere.

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John50

Discussion Starter · #5 · Mar 14, 2021

Hi . I have the schedule set for off peak charging which is 10 - 7 on my tariff. When I checked at 7 and saw it wasn’t fully charged I manually set it going again on the app

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E7EV

· #6 · Mar 14, 2021

Could you go to a local 7kW public charger for an hour and see if you get the same result?

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John50

Discussion Starter · #7 · Mar 14, 2021

Ok have some further updates . Tried a public 7kw charger for an hour ,as soon as I plugged it in the time to 100% halved . Plugged my charger back in at home and the display showed 3.1kw , left it on charge went back 30 min later unlocked my car and the display was showing 1.3kw . Turned the Pod-Point charger off at the wall to re set . Powered back up and plugged the car in . The display originally showed 2.4 kw then gradually creeped up to 7kw . Definitely something going on with the charger ,have emailed Pod-Point support .

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idiotzoo

· #8 · Mar 14, 2021

Apologies for the very basic question, but have you refreshed the app? It doesn't update itself and will present out of date information.

Charging to 100% takes longer than you might expect because of the final balancing of the cells. The charge rate slows to a trickle right at the end....

Your schedule of 9 hours is enough for 63kWh at 7kW charge rate, so you should have reached 100% in that time. If that's not happening then, yes, something is wrong.

When it's charging the Niro reports the charge rate - you say it's reporting 7kW,is the most you can get from a single phase AC charge point, so that checks out. But I don't know if that's measured or just what's negotiated with the charge point. It could be there's a fault with the onboard charger, though I'd expect that to be picked up and reported as an error.

As a comparison, I plugged in my e-Niro yesterday (first time I'd used the home charger point) at 49% at 15:20, it was at 80% at 18:31.

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George56

· #9 · Mar 14, 2021

John50 said:
Hi all
Newbie to the forum and first time EV owner .
purchased a Kia Niro 4+ on March 1st , love the car but slightly concerned about the charge time . I eventually went for a 7kw pod point charger as when researching there web site it shows a charge time of 9hr, my car takes over 20hrs depending on how low it is to get to 100% .
the display on my car shows 7kw when plugged in . Is this normal ,is the Pod-Point website wrong or am I missing something.
thanks for your help

From memory there is an internal switch inside the PodPoint that sets the charging rate. I suspect this has been set to 3Kw/h rather than the required 7Kw/h. You probably need the original installer to make a return visit as the switch requires the cover to be removed for access.

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Billy the Kid

· #10 · Mar 14, 2021

George56 said:
From memory there is an internal switch inside the PodPoint that sets the charging rate. I suspect this has been set to 3Kw/h rather than the required 7Kw/h. You probably need the original installer to make a return visit as the switch requires the cover to be removed for access.

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John50

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 14, 2021

Have logged a support call with Pod-Point, thanks for your help 👍

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CorsaeGaz

· #12 · Mar 14, 2021

George56 said:
From memory there is an internal switch inside the PodPoint that sets the charging rate. I suspect this has been set to 3Kw/h rather than the required 7Kw/h. You probably need the original installer to make a return visit as the switch requires the cover to be removed for access.

My switches were set incorrectly when my podpoint was installed and was limited to 10A. Use the table above and check your switch positions. It takes 2 minutes to sort yourself.

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