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Anyone any experience of these guys? I am finding quite flaky at present - with trouble getting hold of anyone who can answer any faintly technical questions in regards my install (i need a charging 'post' in car park area approx 25m cabled distance from where meter supply is inside our apartment building). Not sure why tesla recommends them as despite having a nice website (and being a plc) they don't seem to have much in the way of staff. Maybe I will try one of the several other accredited companies on the government freebie scheme.
 

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We're happy to help and have already installed for several Tesla owners.

You can reach us on: 0113 8155366 - Ask for Gillian.

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Thomas
 

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Stay clear of 'over-chargemaster' as they have little in the way of customer service and are ripping of the tax payer by milking the government grants just to increase their share value but putting drastically needed chargers in stupid places and demanding 4-6 times the cost of electricity for their use
 

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Anyone any experience of these guys? I am finding quite flaky at present - with trouble getting hold of anyone who can answer any faintly technical questions in regards my install (i need a charging 'post' in car park area approx 25m cabled distance from where meter supply is inside our apartment building). Not sure why tesla recommends them as despite having a nice website (and being a plc) they don't seem to have much in the way of staff. Maybe I will try one of the several other accredited companies on the government freebie scheme.
Do you own the land between the building and the car park, and the parking space itself? Or are you crossing someone else's property?
 

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No, it's all my property - it's a big victorian semi we converted into 5 flats. The cable run isn't too much of an issue as can sort that myself using one of my guys but I'm a bit wary if just sticking charger on a wooden post/similar as would prob look pretty rubbish. Also not sure how vandalproof needs to be. There are lockable charge point options but think be more practical to get something tethered so don't have to muck around getting type 2 connector out of the boot and hooking up every time park up...?
 

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No, it's all my property - it's a big victorian semi we converted into 5 flats. The cable run isn't too much of an issue as can sort that myself using one of my guys but I'm a bit wary if just sticking charger on a wooden post/similar as would prob look pretty rubbish. Also not sure how vandalproof needs to be. There are lockable charge point options but think be more practical to get something tethered so don't have to muck around getting type 2 connector out of the boot and hooking up every time park up...?
Free standing posts tend to be intended for public use with RFID card operation, while domestic chargers tend to be wall-mounted without such access controls. Again public posts tend to have robust metal housings while domestic are often plastic. Your requirement seems to sit uncomfortably in the middle ground.
 

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No, it's all my property - it's a big victorian semi we converted into 5 flats. The cable run isn't too much of an issue as can sort that myself using one of my guys but I'm a bit wary if just sticking charger on a wooden post/similar as would prob look pretty rubbish. Also not sure how vandalproof needs to be. There are lockable charge point options but think be more practical to get something tethered so don't have to muck around getting type 2 connector out of the boot and hooking up every time park up...?

I have seen quite a few charge points fixed to wooden posts and IMO does not look that bad.
 

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Mine was done by Mark @nuWorld Energy after being messed about by Chargemaster.

It's exactly the same Polar unit, which is a bit naff design-wise, and not really vandal proof. But my install was fairly straight forward, as I was happy enough for the cable to be clipped to the outside wall of my house.

I'm guessing with 25M of buried cable, and a semi-commercial post you aren't getting it free anyway.

A cost effective solution may be to actually have one made, using an off the shelf, free standing weather rated electrical cabinet. (A bit like the green phone cabinets). Inside it you put a standard RCBO a Contactor and a MainPine unit.

@nuWorld Energy do a kit for the electrical parts.
http://www.nuworldenergy.co.uk/shop/product/type-2-32a-7kw-mainpine-evse-kit
 

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Remind me why the tesla wall connector isnt available to uk customers? 80 amps @240v sounds handy.
Because US 240V is not the same as UK 240V. UK is single phase relative to ground (0V to 240+V), US is centre tapped (-120V to 0 to +120v).

Besides I imagine most people in the UK have at most 80A inbound fuses from the supply company anyway, so they'd blow their main fuses if trying to charge the car and use a tumble dryer at the same time.
 

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Ps. How do you get the cars charge flap to open - press the fob?
From inside the car only, unless you can get your hold of a third party opener fob. The US cable has a small radio transmitter in it that can open the chargeport. We get a plain old type type 2 cable without this.

I tried to get my hands on this one:
http://www.e-driver.net/tesla-model-s/lade-zubehör/#cc-m-product-9457865921

They refunded me the money because I didn't order a cable at the same time. (The warning was in't place when I ordered it). Also note buying a 3rd party US one won't either work because it uses a different radio frequency.

I'm just putting up with the occasional forgetting to both open and close the charge port at the moment. I heard rumours the latest cars can shut the port as well as open it.
 

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Remind me why the tesla wall connector isnt available to uk customers? 80 amps @240v sounds handy.
Its all down to the onboard chargers on the car.

Don't want to tell you what you may already know but...
In the US the grid uses single phase electricity and so therefore the car has single (40A) and dual (80A) chargers that work in single phase.
In Europe the grid is different and uses three phase leccy and so we have three phase chargers, single - 11kW and Dual - 22kW.

I guess its just down to deciding what to put on the car to give the best compromise.
Single phase is way more prevalent in the UK than in many EU countries, as they very often have three phase domestic feeds. Then the prospect of only having single phase isn't so great... So for many EU countries the on board chargers work well at home.

Our issue is that most houses are single phase but then the grid is three phase and so some public charging and Rapid Chargers are three phase... You want 40/80A single phase capability at home but then 16/32A three phase when out and about!

With the three phase chargers though you can still use them for single phase charging, whereas you cannot the other way around.

Confusing to say the least and ultimately chargers that could handle all situations would be best but then you are paying a chunk more money for something that only helps a smallish number of people.
 

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Confusing to say the least and ultimately chargers that could handle all situations would be best but then you are paying a chunk more money for something that only helps a smallish number of people.
I could be wrong Alex, but I think they are exactly the same chargers across the board. US/UK/EU (and in Superchargers) despite varying voltages, phase count and frequency. In the same way most modern PSUs in PCs or Laptops can handle worldwide use.
 

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I could be wrong Alex, but I think they are exactly the same chargers across the board. US/UK/EU (and in Superchargers) despite varying voltages, phase count and frequency. In the same way most modern PSUs in PCs or Laptops can handle worldwide use.
I'm pretty sure that EU and US cars have different chargers onboard. Thats the reason why all UK cars have dual charger installed to achieve the needed 32amp single phase charge ability, then software limits them to 11kW if you didn't pay for them.
Otherwise why would there be the need for dual chargers if the basic charger did up to 40amps single phase...

I am fairly sure from time spent working in the London store that they have different internals. I'm open to the fact that I may still be wrong though!
 
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