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How long is it reasonable to block a charger once you have finished charging?

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Yep. So long as they factor the true cost in - not some fantasy version.
You'd hope any non-subsidised business would be based in reality. It's some of the heavily subsidised ones we have now who appear to have their heads in the clouds (or somewhere less polite).

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I don't think people are as selfish or have as much time to spare "stealing energy" as some seem to think they do/will.

For example I have free energy locally, I can take enough to fill my battery within 60 minutes including the journey and it could last me a week or more.

I don't, because I just want to drive my car like a regular car and get on with my life. That hour is worth more to me than a few quids electricity, and a day is worth much more than that. I'm sure most EV drivers are in a similar situation and would sooner charge to fit their routine rather than go out of their way to grab free fuel.

I can charge for free at work, so I do. The main reason is not financial (the electricity cost is inconsequential) but because I want people to see the car, ask questions, sell them the benefit.

I live close enough to work that I could take the car there on Saturday/Sunday and walk home. I don't do that, because it would be inconvenient. There could be a car park at the end of my street with free chargers and I wouldn't use them, because I want my car on my driveway, not the end of the street.
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There could be a car park at the end of my street with free chargers and I wouldn't use them, because I want my car on my driveway, not the end of the street.
Absolutely agree with you. I'm in the incredibly fortunate position of being a fleet driver, so I have a fuel card and reimbursement of electricity on street / at home. But I'm still price sensitive - if a petrol mile is cheaper than an electric one, I need to use petrol. In the same way that I need to avoid motorway services' petrol if practicable.

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So the tax payer should fund a network of dedicated charge points for short range PHEVs?
I'm not entirely sure what point you are trying to make here.

The taxpayer is funding our electrical driving activities already, to the tune of £5000 per new EV sold, £0 VED etc. Why has the government decided to do this? Because it recognises the two dreadful truths of Peak Oil and Anthopogenic Climate Change. I regard these tax breaks as them casting their bread upon the waters: when enough people are on board, to the extent that it's denting the revenue raised by the oil/ICE industry, the taxes will be swiftly transferred to electrical vehicles by one means or another.

The government has an enormous dilemma though. They are aware how many jobs are created by the oil industry, many of which will disappear when EVs are much more numerous: no huge fleets of tanker drivers on the road, far fewer oil refinery workers, fewer people to fix cars that don't need the elaborate servicing of the ICE. In short, the entire capitalist system is closely linked to the oil industry as it's where all the economic growth of the past 70 or so years has been generated. Without oil, our political masters, and their financial ones, are going to have to look for a different model.
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