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I drive Ioniq Electric 2020 and usually visit at the weekends for over night stays. What is the best and most cost effective way to recharge it in and around central London, particularly the west end? Do you recommend source london where parking is free but I pay for charging, or pay to park somewhere where charging might be very cheap or free?

I usually get to London late on a Friday with little or no charge left. I stay one or 2 nights and return on either Saturday or Sunday evening. I would like to head back with a full charge if possible. The parking is free on street at those times but the rapid chargers seems to be mostly in paid car parks. The other option I have is to leave it parked on street using a type 2 charger, which is fine as I don't use the car during my stay much.

I would be very much interested in hearing from others who use charges in central London in similar scenarios.

Many thanks!
 

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I drive Ioniq Electric 2020 and usually visit at the weekends for over night stays. What is the best and most cost effective way to recharge it in and around central London, particularly the west end? Do you recommend source london where parking is free but I pay for charging, or pay to park somewhere where charging might be very cheap or free?

I usually get to London late on a Friday with little or no charge left. I stay one or 2 nights and return on either Saturday or Sunday evening. I would like to head back with a full charge if possible. The parking is free on street at those times but the rapid chargers seems to be mostly in paid car parks. The other option I have is to leave it parked on street using a type 2 charger, which is fine as I don't use the car during my stay much.

I would be very much interested in hearing from others who use charges in central London in similar scenarios.

Many thanks!
Where abouts in central London are you staying?

I'm living in Paddington with no off street parking so always use public charging. Some supermarkets give you 2/3 free hours parking on Pod Point (7kw) chargers - not long enough for a full charge or to park for a long time though. There are Polar/BP Pulse 7kw chargers dotted about depending on where you will be.

I find Source London really expensive as they charge per minute, (to include parking fees) not per kwh - although they do have an overnight cap so that may be your best option then move the car in the morning.

Another option for overnight would be Ubitricity lamppost chargers (5kw? - @ 24p/kw) - many are in resident bays but there are some resident bays that only apply Mon-Fri till 6.30pm.

ESB are expanding their rapid chargers (I think about 30p/kw) in London - some new ones at Hammersmith and Hyde Park for example, and of course Shell recharge and BP have some rapid chargers at some filling stations. Have you checked Zap Map for recommendations?
 

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There's a couple of chargers on-street in the West End, there's a few either side of Oxford Street but normally in use. Parking cost is much cheaper if you have an EV, and free on Sundays I think.

Not sure exactly where in London you stay but I think I've seen some around the north side of Regents Park, not far along from the Zoo.
 

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I tend to stop at a rapid on the way into London (nice warm battery) - until the speed drops off/ I get bored of waiting/ I reach enough SoC that I can get to full on a convenient AC post in the time I will be parked. That kinda depends as near my parents' house is either 3.6, 5 or 7.2KW depending on what's available!

It depends where exactly you're headed as to what's the most convenient.
 

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Good news, but I think Franklin's PR department might be pulling a bit of a fast one here.

50 fast charging points (22kW AC) ... . The fast chargers take 1-2 hours to fully charge a car battery
There can't be many cars that can fully charge in 90 minutes on 22kW AC! A 30kWh Zoe maybe. The vast majority are going to max out at 7kW, maybe 11, and have a much bigger battery.

Why make such a silly promise?
 

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Good news, but I think Franklin's PR department might be pulling a bit of a fast one here.



There can't be many cars that can fully charge in 90 minutes on 22kW AC! A 30kWh Zoe maybe. The vast majority are going to max out at 7kW, maybe 11, and have a much bigger battery.

Why make such a silly promise?
Because press releases are made by PR departments, not people who might actually know what they're talking about.
 

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Thanks everybody for the responses. The source London cap is very handy to know about. Couple of posts asked me where I stay. I stay in Hammersmith not far from the station. On the last day I tend to hang around in West End so would like to park there and leave from there. I tried Westfield last time the cable got stuck in the chargers and I had to wait an hour and a half on the phone to get through to some one. And they couldn't help either in the end so I'm not so keen on Westfield chargers. Thanks.
 

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Although ideally nicer to combine the two, you might have to separate the two issues as what is best for parking and what is best for charging might not have one solution. There are some rapid chargers at the BP fuel station in Hammersmith, W6 8BJ. It may be easier to spend an hour there charging, and then you’ll be free to park wherever is convenient. I believe in Westminster, EVs can stay for up to 4 hours in on street parking bays. You just have to pay the minimum amount, less than £1, so the Wardens know at what time you arrived.
 

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I tried Westfield last time the cable got stuck in the chargers and I had to wait an hour and a half on the phone to get through to some one. And they couldn't help either in the end so I'm not so keen on Westfield chargers. Thanks.
When was this? I ask because they had new chargers installed in 2019, which are just bog-standard Chargemaster chargers that you'll find in their thousands across the country. The old Source London chargers (the grey ones) were indeed useless.
 

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When was this? I ask because they had new chargers installed in 2019, which are just bog-standard Chargemaster chargers that you'll find in their thousands across the country. The old Source London chargers (the grey ones) were indeed useless.
I had the same experience as Unstoppable a few days ago at Westfield London. After spending a while finding a working charger, I couldn’t remove my cable from the charger when I was finished. Another lady a few spaces down was experiencing the same too.

They were white chargemaster units that had two Type 2 outlets in Car Park C, which is connected to the upper floor of John Lewis.

The CYC app and extremely long wait time to speak to customer service doesn’t give me much confidence to use those chargers again.
 

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They really need to sort this out. How did you and the other lady manage to get the car released?

Their response to me was that they would have to get an engineer to come out another day to sort the cable and I would need to make my way down from Manchester to meet him to get my cable. How utterly ridiculous! Since then I've stayed away from these horrible chargers and have just used paid one instead. At least I have peace of mind that way.
 

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They really need to sort this out. How did you and the other lady manage to get the car released?

Their response to me was that they would have to get an engineer to come out another day to sort the cable and I would need to make my way down from Manchester to meet him to get my cable. How utterly ridiculous! Since then I've stayed away from these horrible chargers and have just used paid one instead. At least I have peace of mind that way.
The other lady’s machine rebooted and the cable was released. A while later Westfield staff noticed we were stuck and helped to cut power to the machine.

The original solution offered over the phone was similar to what you mentioned. An engineer would come over the next day, release the cable, and they’d send it to us.

The customer service agent did go beyond what I was expecting and phoned me in the evening to check how I was, but until CYC/Chargemaster/BP Pulse improve their app, charger, and call centre response times I’m going to avoid going to Westfield with my car. It’s a shame because out of the many places I can go shopping, Westfield is one where I can typically spend a whole day.
 

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Unfortunately this mirrors my latest visit to Westfield a few weeks ago. Of the John Lewis chargers, three sockets were in use, and not a single one would accept my CYC card. A few managed to activate via the app, but then refused to deliver any power. Before giving up, I managed to find one that would actually charge my car. When it came time to disconnect, I had to press the button in the app at least five/six times before the charger finally responded. Upon leaving, we did see a Chargemaster-branded van pull into one of the spaces - I assumed that he/she was there to repair all of the faulty chargers, but given the posts on here it seems not.

I'm getting to the stage where I'm convinced Chargemaster/Polar/BP/Pulse/whatever they're called this week are doing this deliberately. Why have they made it so complicated? Westgate in Oxford is much simpler - 50 chargers, just plug in and start charging. Cable releases automatically when you unplug from the car.

For myself (Cotswolds-based) I suspect I'll be charging up at Beaconsfield now that Gridserve have done their stuff, then enjoying Westminster's bargain-basement EV parking. The time it took to get a charger working at Westfield would have been about the same as a rapid charge.
 

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Unfortunately this mirrors my latest visit to Westfield a few weeks ago. Of the John Lewis chargers, three sockets were in use, and not a single one would accept my CYC card.
I had this 18 months ago in that Car Park with my Chargemaster card. Ended up leaving the car in one space and walking down to each Charger and tapping my card, when I found one that accepted it I then moved my car to it.

Reported it to BP at the time but they asked me to go and try them all again. Er, no thanks.
 
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