[Rob Owen]

absolutely, it is an affront to design and science. How can anything the shape of a brick be a good car, like a land rover with C_D = 0.41!?

It's almost as if they were designed by the oil companies themselves. Hate the things.
Even if they are electric they are still wasting energy.

All cars serve a variety of purposes for their users. Just because it doesn't suit your needs or circumstances doesn't make it a bad vehicle.

I was on the verge of buying one because of the following factors when I was planning on only running one car in my household:
The school run and daily travel requirements were well within the battery range;
The boot accommodated my 2 large dogs which I take in it daily for their walks;
The I.C. engine permitted uncomplicated longer journeys;
The towing capacity enabled me to pull my caravan when going on holiday;
The 4 wheel drive capability enabled traction on grassed surfaces when required.

Mitsubishi are upfront on their presentation of the economy issues. The "breakeven point" where the diesel version becomes more economical than the PHEV version is on distances in excess of 106 miles. 90+% of my driving made the battery range acceptable and very economical.

In the end I opted to go down a 2nd car route and bought a pre-owned Leaf. The Passat Alltrack will now experience significantly less use, but provide the versatility and second vehicle option when required.

 

[derekb]

As a company we can lease a outlander with out worrying about future values.

The future value (or lack of ) is all built into the price of the lease. You cant avoid it!

 

[Edd Beesley]

The future value (or lack of ) is all built into the price of the lease. You cant avoid it!

True, but it's set up front rather than being an unknown.

 

[Paul_Moxhay]

Even if they are electric they are still wasting energy.

To be honest... I am not bothered about the energy use. I don't see it as a waste at all. If I want an SUV then I can expect it to use more energy but it isn't wasted energy because I get the carrying capacity and different driving position and style.

It all I was interested in was getting from A to B then any car is a waste of energy as there are more efficient ways than even a EV... just less convenient or appropriate

In any case... almost all of my energy used on both my EVs and in my house is from 100% renewables so efficiency isn't may main concern.

 

[Paul_Moxhay]

The future value (or lack of ) is all built into the price of the lease. You cant avoid it!

But at least it is known up front and you can plan for it.