I do wonder if some of the range improvement is from a longer final drive, meaning the motor is spinning slower at the relevant speeds. This is a big area of loss at high speeds in the current e-CMP cars (of course the motor might just have overall lower losses).
Corsa facelift!
As expected, the Corsa is being updated with the funky visor, so it looks more like the Mokka and new Astra. A slightly larger battery, larger infotainment screen, shark fin aerial, and perhaps most important a new processor for the infotainment, so you no longer need a calender to time how long it takes to respond to button presses. Looks like a solid update, but only a facelift, not enough changes to make me jealous - I've only had my Corsa for a couple of months, but it's OK, I'm still happy with it. It already has some upgrades over the original version - a new heat pump and final drive increasing the range, a gear switch instead of lever.
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They already changed the final drive in 2022 vehicles, increasing the WTLP range from 208 to 222 - the facelift has a larger battery. It may also have some other efficiency improvements.I do wonder if some of the range improvement is from a longer final drive, meaning the motor is spinning slower at the relevant speeds. This is a big area of loss at high speeds in the current e-CMP cars (of course the motor might just have overall lower losses).
Bit more slippery maybe ??
The nose is slightly different, but the rest of the body is identical. Can a shark fin aerial make that much difference over a bee sting?Bit more slippery maybe ??
Suppose it depends the Bee is stinging you or the Shark is biting you 😂
Never been fan of any Opel or Vauxhall however, I have to admit that I like the way this car looks.
Might be worth taking one for an extended test drive when that's available.
I'd like to see how it compares to the Mokka.
Maybe when the Megane goes in for something I can get something organised, at least there shouldn't be the usual worry about driving a petrol courtesy car with barely enough fuel left to get to the petrol station.
Last time Aston lent me something it literally spluttered and conked out as I pulled out of their carpark.
Fortunately I had my 9 litres of unleaded with me.
Gaz
I'd like to see how it compares to the Mokka.
Maybe when the Megane goes in for something I can get something organised, at least there shouldn't be the usual worry about driving a petrol courtesy car with barely enough fuel left to get to the petrol station.
Last time Aston lent me something it literally spluttered and conked out as I pulled out of their carpark.
Fortunately I had my 9 litres of unleaded with me.
Gaz
That's because it isn't a Vauxhall anymore - it's a Peugeot.Never been fan of any Opel or Vauxhall however, I have to admit that I like the way this car looks.
I like how the picture shows a vibrant, bright red but the car is revealed in dull soul crushing dull primer dull grey.
Same for shots of the new BMW 5 series. A deep, rich red for the road, a godawful primer grey for the reveal.
Why in God's name would anyone have this colour? I saw an i4 in a carpark last week, it was the top spec but the owner had it in this dreadful grey. It just looked unfinished.
Same for shots of the new BMW 5 series. A deep, rich red for the road, a godawful primer grey for the reveal.
Why in God's name would anyone have this colour? I saw an i4 in a carpark last week, it was the top spec but the owner had it in this dreadful grey. It just looked unfinished.
I've said this for a while....seems to have been a fad for this sort of grey colour that actually looks like they've primed it then forgot to paint it. Seems very in fashion for BMWs and Audis currently.
and before that, it was GM, and they badge engineered the same vehicles as Opel, Holden, Vauxhall and Chevrolet. Your point is... ?That's because it isn't a Vauxhall anymore - it's a Peugeot.
And your point is ?and before that, it was GM, and they badge engineered the same vehicles as Opel, Holden, Vauxhall and Chevrolet. Your point is... ?
In terms of the basic powertrain I think the Peugeot e-308 and Vauxhall/Opal Astra-e will be around first for test drives. My understanding is that they should start to appear in the next month or so, but I could be wrong. I don't know the timeframe on the Jeep's arrival, or the updated DS3 etense. For the infotainment, I haven't checked, but that is likely something we will need to wait for the new versions of these cars to test.Might be worth taking one for an extended test drive when that's available.
I'd like to see how it compares to the Mokka.
Maybe when the Megane goes in for something I can get something organised, at least there shouldn't be the usual worry about driving a petrol courtesy car with barely enough fuel left to get to the petrol station.
Last time Aston lent me something it literally spluttered and conked out as I pulled out of their carpark.
Fortunately I had my 9 litres of unleaded with me.
Gaz
that it's not unheard of, in fact, it's quite common in the automotive industry for them to release slight variants of the same vehicle platform under different vanity brands, sometimes with different styling, sometimes not. Why the manufacturers go to the effort of creating a different new-to-market brand is the question. It must cost them a fortune to do things like Genesis / Cupra / Infiniti.And your point is ?
e.g. Volkswagen e-Up / Skoda Citigo e / Seat Mii electric
Audi e-tron GT / Porsche Taycan
Vauxhall Ampera / Opel Ampera / Chevrolet Volt
Vauxhall Vectra / Opel Vectra / Saab 9-3 / Chevrolet Malibu / Cadillac BLS
Austin Se7en / Morris Mini Minor / Innocenti Mini / Riley Elf / Wolseley Hornet
In terms of the Corsa, that was never actually a 'Vauxhall' design. Back when it was called the 'Nova', that was an Opel Design. They've been designing at the Opel offices for decades, and now much of the design is shared with the Peugeot / Citroen design offices.
@First Draft "According to new data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), grey is officially the nation’s favourite new car ‘colour’ for the fifth year in a row."I like how the picture shows a vibrant, bright red but the car is revealed in dull soul crushing dull primer dull grey.
Same for shots of the new BMW 5 series. A deep, rich red for the road, a godawful primer grey for the reveal.
Why in God's name would anyone have this colour? I saw an i4 in a carpark last week, it was the top spec but the owner had it in this dreadful grey. It just looked unfinished.
don't tell me.. It's because it's a 'free' colour when ordering a car new, and that colour was chosen by the manufacturers, who think it's popular with the public because they like the colour, not that they're saving £500 on the list price of the car?@First Draft "According to new data from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders (SMMT), grey is officially the nation’s favourite new car ‘colour’ for the fifth year in a row."
@Simon..Hewison Err, no, it's probably because "grey" is a popular colour for people in this country in recent years, whether it's painting the outside of their home or their car colourdon't tell me.. It's because it's a 'free' colour when ordering a car new, and that colour was chosen by the manufacturers, who think it's popular with the public because they like the colour, not that they're saving £500 on the list price of the car?
Sorry, did I say £500. I meant save £645.@Simon..Hewison Err, no, it's probably because "grey" is a popular colour for people in this country in recent years, whether it's painting the outside of their home or their car colour
Volkswagen ID.3 colours 2022
- Moonstone Grey / Flat Black - £0
- Glacier White Metallic / Flat Black - £645
- Makena Turquoise Metallic / Flat Black - £645
- Manganese Grey Metallic / Flat Black - £645
- Scale Silver Metallic / Flat Black - £645
- Stonewashed Blue Metallic / Flat Black - £645
Someone who never liked Vauxhall - which was owned by GM between 1912 and 2016, and had been rebadged Opels since the 1980s, is surprised to find they like the new Corsa. The reason they like it is because it isn't a rebadged Opel - it's a rebadged Peugeot, a completely different design by a completely different company, sharing only the name.and before that, it was GM, and they badge engineered the same vehicles as Opel, Holden, Vauxhall and Chevrolet. Your point is... ?
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