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My current range; zero. I can't use my car and I am paying for something I can't use.

It is not a car which comes with air conditioning. I was not told this. People should be warned. I get migraines with the stuffy air that results.

Get an Ioniq.
 

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My current range; zero. I can't use my car and I am paying for something I can't use.

It is not a car which comes with air conditioning. I was not told this. People should be warned. I get migraines with the stuffy air that results.

Get an Ioniq.
Did you get entry level model ?
Would the Ioniq not be parked up too?

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My current range; zero. I can't use my car and I am paying for something I can't use.

It is not a car which comes with air conditioning. I was not told this. People should be warned. I get migraines with the stuffy air that results.

Get an Ioniq.
What model do you have?
 

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Play.

HKMC use separate heater and AC, so I have every reasonable expectation no such complications with Ioniq.

There again, I had every reasonable expectation to find this on the Zoe.

Range on Zoe 50 is, however, amazing. It is its one singular redeeming feature. I cannot, right now, think of anything else positive to say about it.
 

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Play.

HKMC use separate heater and AC, so I have every reasonable expectation no such complications with Ioniq.

There again, I had every reasonable expectation to find this on the Zoe.

Range on Zoe 50 is, however, amazing. It is its one singular redeeming feature. I cannot, right now, think of anything else positive to say about it.
What is your range this time of year ?

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It is not a car which comes with air conditioning. I was not told this. People should be warned.
If its got the bog standard heat pump then yes it does have AC, just not AC at the same time as heating. It flip flops from heat to cooling which is why if you use it with "AC ON" it gets warm then cool then warm but never hot a dry.
 

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If its got the bog standard heat pump then yes it does have AC, just not AC at the same time as heating. It flip flops from heat to cooling which is why if you use it with "AC ON" it gets warm then cool then warm but never hot a dry.
S'funny. Lost of you guys with Leaf and Zoe have said both run I have also driven older Leaf and Zoe and those appeared to run both at the same time.

There are two matrices and fluid can be put through both at the same time. Cooling the evaporator then putting that heat straight back into the condenser.

I think they have taken parts out and have withdrawn from telling anyone. Even the tech and service people initially said it did do this.
 

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S'funny. Lost of you guys with Leaf and Zoe have said both run I have also driven older Leaf and Zoe and those appeared to run both at the same time.

There are two matrices and fluid can be put through both at the same time. Cooling the evaporator then putting that heat straight back into the condenser.

I think they have taken parts out and have withdrawn from telling anyone. Even the tech and service people initially said it did do this.
I thought we agreed it’s because you have the poverty spec Zoe?
 

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Can I ask you to do this test? With AC off, if you turn on heat and hit recycle air only, then it'll mist up in this cold wet weather pretty quick, right?

Then hit AC. What happens?

Do the windows then clear?

Mine do not. Carries on misting.

I can only then clear (once misted and with heat and recycle still on and AC selected on) by turning down the heat setting to zero heat, whereupon the AC kicks in and clears the windows.

My understanding was always, and was also Renault's understanding and what it says in the handbook, that it DID run AC, but now they are saying it never meant to run AC so they have resisted me rejecting the car.

(Sorry for the thread distraction, I hope my earlier answer covers it. This other thing is obviously important to me at the moment.)
 

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What is your range this time of year ?

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About 325 km (200 miles) not using ECO drive and air conditioning is set to 22 ˙C, outside temperatures are below 0˙C (-10˙C over the night), do not have garage or canopy.

It's about 190 - 200 Wh/km (about 300 Wh/mile = 3,3 miles/kWh)
 

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Can I ask you to do this test? With AC off, if you turn on heat and hit recycle air only, then it'll mist up in this cold wet weather pretty quick, right?

Then hit AC. What happens?

Do the windows then clear?

Mine do not. Carries on misting.

I can only then clear (once misted and with heat and recycle still on and AC selected on) by turning down the heat setting to zero heat, whereupon the AC kicks in and clears the windows.

My understanding was always, and was also Renault's understanding and what it says in the handbook, that it DID run AC, but now they are saying it never meant to run AC so they have resisted me rejecting the car.

(Sorry for the thread distraction, I hope my earlier answer covers it. This other thing is obviously important to me at the moment.)

Get in car, heat set to 20, press AC button everything clears really fast, I can feel the hot air too

The only annoyance is that the AC doesnt seem to run in auto mode.
 

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Play spec lists manual air conditioning and not automatic climate control. I don't think any other Zoes previously had manual aircon. Just automatic climate control.

The MG ZS is the only other EV I think of without climate control. I wonder if it has the same weakness?
 
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