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This is the Dacia version of the Chinese Renault City K-ZE.



I suspect the discrepancy between 168 miles range for the K-ZE & 124 miles for the Dacia in the Driving Electric article to be the difference between NEDC & WLTP, rather than a smaller battery as they suggest.
 

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Seems to be a race for lowest range EV now.... strange switch around from the last few years. Yes there is a market for shorter range EVs, and yes there is a market for a small SUV style vehicle, but selling this car the the regular public will be a struggle. I can see someone who owned a first 1 gen Leaf of Zoe and who lived in the city seeing this a good replacement. But for general public.... it'll probably do poorly.
 

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Yes the battery is smaller than the Leaf 30 and hardly bigger than the almost decade old Gen 1 Leaf or original Zoe!
 

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Given that the national annual average mileage is under 7000 or 140 miles a week why is that? Yes there are some road warriors doing 30000 but for most it should be fine. Rather than the mean average a median figure would be very interesting.
Perhaps the mentality of the town dweller who self justifies driving a huge 4x4 all year because they tow a caravan once a year.
 

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Just look at sales of short range EVs vs longer range EVs and you'll get your answer. Many people have variability in their driving profiles so a single average is misleading. People don't want longer trips to take hours extra and you also need to factor in battery degradation over time as well much lower winter range.
 

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Yup its mainly down the fear even though their real usage is low. I'm seeing that even when discussing the MG EV, why buy that when you can buy an e-Niro with double the range, why indeed! Well 1. i don't have the extra £10k it would take, and 2. I really don't need that range, even my long trips will be covered fine with 160miles, I usually stop for pee stops long before then (when you've got young kids its inevitable).

As for the battery being barely bigger than a Mk1 Zoe, is the 26kWh usable or raw... if its raw then its probably the same 22kWh usable the Mk1 had. Just in a much smaller (denser) cheaper pack. And yet its £15k which it real terms makes it more expensive than the MK1 Zoe when the i model was introduced.
 

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Teeny weeny range.

The Duster was incredibly cheap at launch - it looks like the only way to drive down the cost of these cars at present is by putting in a smaller battery. Bit annoying. To draw people away from mega cheap, horrifically polluting SUVs, cheap vehicles like this are great - but the range will nark a lot of people off.
 
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