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My worst experiences have been with Outlander PHEV owners who hog the rapid charger until their small battery is 100% full. Although its only been about 5 or 6 times in the past 3 and curiously its always been on Ecotricity charge. maybe they were hoping for Free Vend?


One time at Ikea I arrived at the charger to find an unoccupied Outlander charging. It had 15 mins left according to the Charger. So I waited. About 2 mins before the 45 min time slot expired the owners arrived (you wouldn't want to meet either of them at night.....nor would you want to engage in any sort of interaction at all) The charger showed that their car was 91% full. What did they do? They disconnected and reconnected again and went back inside the store!

So we too went into the the store. I went back to the charger 45 mins later and they had gone. So luckily I could charge.
 

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@QPRfan My wife owns a Outlander PHEV, and you're right there is not point in wasting time for a rapid charge as on a motorway it will probably go 15 miles on electic only. She only ever charges as home and when we go on longer trips I use it Parallel Hybrid mode (using charge and save functions) on Motorways and electric in the destination city/town. The large buffer (actual - usable) is also very annoying as it run out with i think 30% (or could be 20%) left in %SOC

All phev's should be banned from Motorway chargers.
 

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@QPRfan My wife owns a Outlander PHEV, and you're right there is not point in wasting time for a rapid charge as on a motorway it will probably go 15 miles on electic only. She only ever charges as home and when we go on longer trips I use it Parallel Hybrid mode (using charge and save functions) on Motorways and electric in the destination city/town. The large buffer (actual - usable) is also very annoying as it run out with i think 30% (or could be 20%) left in %SOC

All phev's should be banned from Motorway chargers.
Well said.
 

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My worst experiences have been with Outlander PHEV owners who hog the rapid charger until their small battery is 100% full. Although its only been about 5 or 6 times in the past 3 and curiously its always been on Ecotricity charge. maybe they were hoping for Free Vend?


One time at Ikea I arrived at the charger to find an unoccupied Outlander charging. It had 15 mins left according to the Charger. So I waited. About 2 mins before the 45 min time slot expired the owners arrived (you wouldn't want to meet either of them at night.....nor would you want to engage in any sort of interaction at all) The charger showed that their car was 91% full. What did they do? They disconnected and reconnected again and went back inside the store!

So we too went into the the store. I went back to the charger 45 mins later and they had gone. So luckily I could charge.
At least you could get to the chargers at Ikea. When I went last week, they were all fenced off so the COVID queue could zigzag past.
 

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I don't know if it is just because I am always on the road so always charging publicly, or if I just seem to attract the wrong people. Has anyone else recently encountered an explosion of new EV owners who are acting rude and entitled? It's always been a bit of a problem over the years but never like what I have observed in this past month or so.
This item on Rip-off Britain is instructive. Start watching at about 32min. The poor guy didn't seem to have a clue.
Rip Off Britain - Series 12: Episode 8
 

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This item on Rip-off Britain is instructive. Start watching at about 32min. The poor guy didn't seem to have a clue.
Rip Off Britain - Series 12: Episode 8
To be fair, hotels like Holiday Inn could have helped their guests by adding a couple of 3 or 7kW posts alongside the rapid chargers to allow people to stay plugged in all night if they are going to be staying there for a while. I know that you can return to the rapid charger and move your car, or charge it up in the morning before breakfast or whatever, but for a hotel I admit that this model is a little unfriendly to the paying guests at the hotel and says to me that Polar and Holiday Inn just signed a deal for the purpose of making money from outsiders and not really caring about those who they should probably be caring about most.

If the guy in this clip was actually plugged into an AC destination post, since he did say 3 hours (which suggests most likely an early LEAF or Zoe charging at 7kW... That, or a PHEV which decided to hog a rapid for 3 hours :mad: ) Then shame on the chargepoint operator/hotel chain for setting such a tariff which punishes people for using a destination charger as intended, at a destination by a paying guest.
 

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This item on Rip-off Britain is instructive. Start watching at about 32min. The poor guy didn't seem to have a clue.
Rip Off Britain - Series 12: Episode 8
It seems to me just another example of selective reporting and in doing so, creating an "issue".

The fella actually said that it would normally cost him a "couple of pounds", which would be what? 6-7kWh which would suggest a PHEV. But of course, there's no information on
that.

If he normally only pays a "couple of pounds" then he knows that he is never on a charger very long. So why does he think he can just leave it parked there all night, he must know that that blocks anyone else from using it. You don't have to be an EV specialist to work that one out.

Anyway. he learnt a lesson, and so hopefully did anyone else watching who wasn't aware that deliberately blocking someone else from using a public facility is just plain rude.
 

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It seems to me just another example of selective reporting and in doing so, creating an "issue".
Does anyone know where this hotel is located? According to his information, the charger is "free for the 1st hour, £2/hour for the next two hours, £5/hour after that".

The specialist says the driver was subject to an "overstay fee". However I'd say it was more a tiered level of tariff to encourage a driver to move off early?

Would also say an Outlander or BEV (charging to 100%) could camp on many Rapids in the same way and not suffer any penalty as many only charge per kWh.
 

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I'd probably remove the current labels & print up new ones that change "Time of Arrival" to "Expected return time" & the parking logo to a charging one.
Giving any vandal/thief the estimated return time so they know if its safe to break into you car....... Not something I will be doing.
 

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Giving any vandal/thief the estimated return time so they know if its safe to break into you car....... Not something I will be doing.
Which is why I always set mine 20 minutes later than when I actually arrive back at the car.

The look on their faces...
 

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Which is why I always set mine 20 minutes later than when I actually arrive back at the car.

The look on their faces...
In the majority of cases you can look at the state of charge and work out when most people will return. I know that isn't perfect but its always worked for me and the idiots don't know when you will return.....
 

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Is the text deliberately misleading then? I'd be annoyed if I was charged £2 instead of nothing. And I'd certainly not be looking to charge before 6 in the morning.
The card clearly reads "standard network message rates apply". Certainly misleading if the text will cost £2 !

But FWIW, https://www.eva.scot/membership/about clearly states :-
As a Full Member you will receive our exclusive membership pack featuring Charging/Parking disc (with free text message alert system)
 
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