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Hi all

I'm a new EV owner and looking at zap-map see that Doncaster (where I live) hardly has any charge points at all.

Last night I contacted some local shopping centres (Frenchgate, Wheatly Hall, Lakeside, Junction 32, XScape) to ask them if they had plans to follow Meadowhall's lead and install charge points. If they weren't already planning I was hoping to prompt them to consider the idea (maybe by fearing they'll lose trade to the big bad Meadowhall!).

So my questions are:
  1. If you're from Doncaster what locations do you think would be good to have EV charge points?
  2. If you're from elsewhere and have sent similar mailshots, what response did you get? Who are the best people to contact (is it the leaseholders or landlords, for example)?
I'll use this thread to post any responses I get.
 

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Lakeside would be a fairly obvious one, it seems the busiest place in donny apart from the frenchgate centre...

Maybe the dome and Asda as well?

Looking on the map, Sheffield seems very similar to donny though with a large space and no charging points!
 

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Lakeside would be a fairly obvious one, it seems the busiest place in donny apart from the frenchgate centre...

Maybe the dome and Asda as well?

Looking on the map, Sheffield seems very similar to donny though with a large space and no charging points!
What Sheffield home constituency of poor Mr Clegg who the Tories rolled out to fight for all that "green crap" [Camoron's words]?
 

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Lakeside would be a fairly obvious one, it seems the busiest place in donny apart from the frenchgate centre...
Great news! Lakeside have just replied saying that they've got plans, and they're installing 2 charge points in the new year!

Full reply posted here if you're interested. I've asked for some more details (network, type etc).

It's looking quite promising actually. If these places all already have plans then how many more are there that we don't know about? Exciting to think what the zap map will look like this time next year. It will be hard for people to argue against owning an EV when there's a charge point in every car park! Furthermore it'll be hard for a business owner to NOT have a charge point installed, when they clearly lose out on business by not having them.
Maybe the dome and Asda as well?
Asda already has the Polar ones, so unfortunately I can't see them biting. POLAR is far too expensive to be useful really (makes a petrol car cheaper). Dome is a good suggestion though, will fire off an email!
 

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Hi Mark.
We have just picked up 2 new Leafs on 21st December, but have had one on loan since Sept so have learnt loads as we've gone along. We've replaced our VW Golf and Volvo V70. We live just outside Doncaster but visit Donny regularly.

There are charge points currently as follows:
Evans Halshaw Nissan, Wheatley Hall Rd - 7kw (free)
Asda, Glwice Way (Dome). they have 2 posts operated by Chargemaster. In the unlikely event that you find a free bay (they are always ICEd) you need an RFID card which I've found temperamental, but I've found it better to connect through the Polar Instant app on my Android phone (free).
Mount Pleasant Hotel, Bawtry Rd, near Rossington. (free) No card required. Just plug in and go. I think its a 7Kw but not sure. It's located round the rear of the hotel. Polite but not essential to let reception know.
Chamber St. This is on the corner of College Rd and Chequer Rd in the new car park. It's not connected until 20/1/15 and I've been informed that it will be free, and it will not need an RFID card at first. It looks like parking fees will apply though.
Moto Services J5 M18. Free, fast charger. Ecotricity card required.

Also have a look at inmotion.co.uk which is a South Yorkshire regional partnership who are installing charge points in the SY area to make it environmentally friendly. They have informed me that charge points are being installed by them at the following points:

Lakeside (Formerly Yorkshire Outlet) - Due spring 15
Frenchgate - Due spring 15

Market Car Park - Due spring 15

They installed the points at Meadowhall and are also installing others in Sheff, Barnsely and Roth.

As an aside, I visited York last week (do-able on a single charge). There are loads of places to charge there. My favorite being on Bootham Row. Use the CYC app to connect. Some CYC chargers are free, but York charge 15p / kWh (a full charge costing about £3). However parking for electric vehicles is free, compared to £2.40 per hour for ICE vehicles, this is cheap in my opinion.

The longest trip we've done so far (with the wife and 3 kids) was from Doncaster to Poole. Stayed overnight in a B&B who allowed us to charge the car overnight in a 13amp socket. It was a long journey!

I've found the following apps useful:
Plugshare
Charge Your Car
Polar Instant
Open Charge Map.

Maybe see you at a charging post one day.
 

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Hi Mark.
We have just picked up 2 new Leafs on 21st December, but have had one on loan since Sept so have learnt loads as we've gone along. We've replaced our VW Golf and Volvo V70. We live just outside Doncaster but visit Donny regularly.

There are charge points currently as follows:
Evans Halshaw Nissan, Wheatley Hall Rd - 7kw (free)
Asda, Glwice Way (Dome). they have 2 posts operated by Chargemaster. In the unlikely event that you find a free bay (they are always ICEd) you need an RFID card which I've found temperamental, but I've found it better to connect through the Polar Instant app on my Android phone (free).
Mount Pleasant Hotel, Bawtry Rd, near Rossington. (free) No card required. Just plug in and go. I think its a 7Kw but not sure. It's located round the rear of the hotel. Polite but not essential to let reception know.
Chamber St. This is on the corner of College Rd and Chequer Rd in the new car park. It's not connected until 20/1/15 and I've been informed that it will be free, and it will not need an RFID card at first. It looks like parking fees will apply though.
Moto Services J5 M18. Free, fast charger. Ecotricity card required.

Also have a look at inmotion.co.uk which is a South Yorkshire regional partnership who are installing charge points in the SY area to make it environmentally friendly. They have informed me that charge points are being installed by them at the following points:

Lakeside (Formerly Yorkshire Outlet) - Due spring 15
Frenchgate - Due spring 15
Market Car Park - Due spring 15


They installed the points at Meadowhall and are also installing others in Sheff, Barnsely and Roth.

As an aside, I visited York last week (do-able on a single charge). There are loads of places to charge there. My favorite being on Bootham Row. Use the CYC app to connect. Some CYC chargers are free, but York charge 15p / kWh (a full charge costing about £3). However parking for electric vehicles is free, compared to £2.40 per hour for ICE vehicles, this is cheap in my opinion.

The longest trip we've done so far (with the wife and 3 kids) was from Doncaster to Poole. Stayed overnight in a B&B who allowed us to charge the car overnight in a 13amp socket. It was a long journey!

I've found the following apps useful:
Plugshare
Charge Your Car
Polar Instant
Open Charge Map.

Maybe see you at a charging post one day.

Well done on the new purchases and welcome to SpeakEV
 

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Barnsley too is void of chargers, On zap-map there is one at the Nissan garage (miles from anywhere) and one in the town centre that is for Council workers only (so totally useless).

The only one of any use is at Woolly Edge Services which is 10 miles from me (Ecotricity Rapid)

Not very encouraging when I had a Leaf on a 7 day trail and could only charge at home with the brick.
 

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Hi Mark.
We have just picked up 2 new Leafs on 21st December, but have had one on loan since Sept so have learnt loads as we've gone along. We've replaced our VW Golf and Volvo V70. We live just outside Doncaster but visit Donny regularly.

There are charge points currently as follows:
Evans Halshaw Nissan, Wheatley Hall Rd - 7kw (free)
Asda, Glwice Way (Dome). they have 2 posts operated by Chargemaster. In the unlikely event that you find a free bay (they are always ICEd) you need an RFID card which I've found temperamental, but I've found it better to connect through the Polar Instant app on my Android phone (free).
Mount Pleasant Hotel, Bawtry Rd, near Rossington. (free) No card required. Just plug in and go. I think its a 7Kw but not sure. It's located round the rear of the hotel. Polite but not essential to let reception know.
Chamber St. This is on the corner of College Rd and Chequer Rd in the new car park. It's not connected until 20/1/15 and I've been informed that it will be free, and it will not need an RFID card at first. It looks like parking fees will apply though.
Moto Services J5 M18. Free, fast charger. Ecotricity card required.

Also have a look at inmotion.co.uk which is a South Yorkshire regional partnership who are installing charge points in the SY area to make it environmentally friendly. They have informed me that charge points are being installed by them at the following points:

Lakeside (Formerly Yorkshire Outlet) - Due spring 15
Frenchgate - Due spring 15
Market Car Park - Due spring 15


They installed the points at Meadowhall and are also installing others in Sheff, Barnsely and Roth.

As an aside, I visited York last week (do-able on a single charge). There are loads of places to charge there. My favorite being on Bootham Row. Use the CYC app to connect. Some CYC chargers are free, but York charge 15p / kWh (a full charge costing about £3). However parking for electric vehicles is free, compared to £2.40 per hour for ICE vehicles, this is cheap in my opinion.

The longest trip we've done so far (with the wife and 3 kids) was from Doncaster to Poole. Stayed overnight in a B&B who allowed us to charge the car overnight in a 13amp socket. It was a long journey!

I've found the following apps useful:
Plugshare
Charge Your Car
Polar Instant
Open Charge Map.

Maybe see you at a charging post one day.
Great write-up, thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the new one in town, nor of the imminence of the Frenchgate and Lakeside ones.

I'm glad to hear that those who did the Meadowhall ones are doing the Doncaster ones too. I've found the Meadowhall ones to be the most reliable and hassle-free of all the points I've used. It's refreshingly simple not to have to use a rubbish slow app or tempramental RFID car; just plug in and charge. Hopefully the Doncaster ones will be the same.

I recently wrote to McArthur Glen outlet in York as the CYC chargers there were not working (or the app, who knows, but none of us could charge). There were 4 Leafs in the car park that day, 3 in the eco car park spaces and one in the disabled. Most i've ever seen together in the wild!
 

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Great write-up, thanks for that. I wasn't aware of the new one in town, nor of the imminence of the Frenchgate and Lakeside ones.

I'm glad to hear that those who did the Meadowhall ones are doing the Doncaster ones too. I've found the Meadowhall ones to be the most reliable and hassle-free of all the points I've used. It's refreshingly simple not to have to use a rubbish slow app or tempramental RFID car; just plug in and charge. Hopefully the Doncaster ones will be the same.

I recently wrote to McArthur Glen outlet in York as the CYC chargers there were not working (or the app, who knows, but none of us could charge). There were 4 Leafs in the car park that day, 3 in the eco car park spaces and one in the disabled. Most i've ever seen together in the wild!
No problems.

BTW, the one at lakeside is going to be a rapid apparently. I haven't tried the meadowhall chargers yet so will have to make a trip soon.

Something else that needs looking at is the marking of bays. Asda is always iced, whereas I've never had problems in York, ikea, or moto services.

Another good place to go from Doncaster is leeds. The park and ride on Elland Road is free, as is charging with cyc. The bus into the city stops right next to the charging bays and is quite cheap. Avoid match days though.
 

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No problems.

BTW, the one at lakeside is going to be a rapid apparently. I haven't tried the meadowhall chargers yet so will have to make a trip soon.

Something else that needs looking at is the marking of bays. Asda is always iced, whereas I've never had problems in York, ikea, or moto services.

Another good place to go from Doncaster is leeds. The park and ride on Elland Road is free, as is charging with cyc. The bus into the city stops right next to the charging bays and is quite cheap. Avoid match days though.
If you are coming to Leeds on a match day pop in and see me and you can charge at our dealership for free - we are a 20min walk from the town centre. Will provide refreshments as well!
 

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No problems.

BTW, the one at lakeside is going to be a rapid apparently. I haven't tried the meadowhall chargers yet so will have to make a trip soon.

Something else that needs looking at is the marking of bays. Asda is always iced, whereas I've never had problems in York, ikea, or moto services.

Another good place to go from Doncaster is leeds. The park and ride on Elland Road is free, as is charging with cyc. The bus into the city stops right next to the charging bays and is quite cheap. Avoid match days though.
When I went to Leeds there was ambiguity over whether the Woodhouse lane multi story had chargers in. It did, they were ICEd, and they didn't work with the CYC app despite being branded up CYC. Leeds council says the charge points aren't for public use, and tht hatching off the electric spaces would cost too much (in lost car park revenue). Thankfully we made it back with single digit miles remaining!

Will bear in mind the Elland road Park and Ride next time I go to Leeds.

York is fantastic in that there are so many chargers. The one time I found them ICEd (in the Castle Car Park, 2 x 7kw) I just nipped round the corner to Nunnery Lane (8 x 7kw and a Chademo).

The longest trip we've done so far (with the wife and 3 kids) was from Doncaster to Poole
Out of interest, weren't you tempted to keep one ICE car for journeys like this? That's what we did and it works nicely for us. We get through just under a tank of diesel a month now, as opposed to 4 or 5 before the Leaf, so I still feel like I'm being environmentally friendly.
 

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Barnsley too is void of chargers, On zap-map there is one at the Nissan garage (miles from anywhere) and one in the town centre that is for Council workers only (so totally useless).

The only one of any use is at Woolly Edge Services which is 10 miles from me (Ecotricity Rapid)

Not very encouraging when I had a Leaf on a 7 day trail and could only charge at home with the brick.
I initially thought the same, but then realised I probably wouldn't use chargers within ~25m of home anyway, and this turned out to be exactly right. If it's less than 25 mile or so I just charge it when I get back home.

So what's important is chargers being in locations that you're heading to. Ecotricity ones at the services stations are great but I wish there were more at the East coast seaside towns. We day trip to Scaborough, Whitby, etc regularly but have to take the diesel at the moment as there's literally nowhere to charge when you get there.

It's a mixed bag but I'm still more than happy with the leaf!
 

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We were made an offer we couldn't refuse for 2 leafs. also, we kept fighting over who was going to take the leaf and neither me or the wife wanted to drive the volvo. we tried sharing the leaf and arranging our shifts so that we didnt have to use the volvo but it got complicated. we've taken a huge leap of faith and bought 2.
we have use of a apartment in whitby and have found a lack of charging facilities. when we go there we will take advantage of the nissan loan car i think.
 

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If you are coming to Leeds on a match day pop in and see me and you can charge at our dealership for free - we are a 20min walk from the town centre. Will provide refreshments as well!
Thanks for the offer Ian, will take you up on that some time. BTW, we got our 2 leafs (leaves?) from E H Nissan Doncaster.
 

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Saw the Lakeside shopping centre charger today, part installed. It's in the disabled/parent+child bit, at the Clarks end. It has 3 tethered points: looks like chademo, CCS and menekes. Is all stickered up 'in motion' so it's likely free to use too.
 

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I live in East Yorks and wish there were more along the East coast and one in/near Malton to get to the Moors, but haven't made any enquries yet as to whether anything's planned. Near Donny, Yorkshire Wildlife Park would be a good spot for a destination charge IMO.

I only got my Leaf a few days ago but am planning to write to North and East Yorkshire councils to ask what's planned. They've done a good job in York and don't mind paying as they're reasonably priced - hopefully some other areas can follow this example!

Any tips on what to put in letters to councils/businesses are very welcome!
 

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They've done a good job in York and don't mind paying as they're reasonably priced - hopefully some other areas can follow this example!
I agree York are a great example as they were quick to get them installed and they're in lots of spots. But the Doncaster ones are even better if you ask me as they're free to use. It's not the paying I mind though, it's more that my wallet is thick enough without having 15 RFID cards to carry around. Not to mention the worry that I might have fried it standing too close to the microwave or something!

Don't get me started on the apps either, they're all made by the lowest bidder and slow and buggy!

Any tips on what to put in letters to councils/businesses are very welcome!
The letters I wrote are posted on my blog in the links at the beginning of this thread. I'm no wordsmith haha, but feel free to use them as you like.
 
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