[Naturetech]

Apart from views of armchair 'experts', does anybody have any actual first-hand data on e-NV200 battery degradation? Is it as bad as the Leaf?
I like the idea of the van in its 2018 onwards capacity, but often wondered how the 'cooled' version of the 40kWh stands up.

 

[edteamslr]

I don't hear so much conversation about env200s now. I wonder if the market has moved on. My 24 is still soldiering on at 82%, 142,000 miles. No complaints. I hope this will put the topic to the top where someone can address the 40kwh version.

 

[Naturetech]

Thanks for your reply. With over 140 thousand miles under its belt, I assume it's been a good reliable van.
I'll be looking for one (or the usual diesel Transit/Vivaro etc.) in 2 or 3 months' time, but wanted to be sure an eNV200 would be reliable, and go at least 100 miles on a full charge.

 

[infviza]

I have 93% after 45kkm (28 thousand miles) on my 40kWh Evalia, so I think 82% is really good. Here is the chart showing degradation numbers over time since I have purchased the car. Even though both 24kWh and 40kWh have forced air cooling of the battery, apparently the configuration of the ECU was not changed to account for higher heat generation in more power-dense 40kWh battery, so it is much less effective than in the 24kWh version. Unfortunately the ECU is located inside of the battery, so it is nearly impossible to change the parametrisation without opening the battery itself. This was one of the reasons why I decided to install battery extender from Muxsan. I did not want to void the warranty of my battery among other things. Consequence of this: my 7 seat Evalia is now officially a 4 seater due to higher weight of the vehicle.

Here is a chart showing the values SoH over the Odo (in km). Red dot shows the point where UBEx (Muxan Underbody Battery Extender) was installed.

As for the discussion, I find that the "Nissan E-NV200 Electric van owners / enthusiasts" group on Facebook is quite a bit more active, there is an SoH thread started on 17th of December.

 

[dk6780]

My 24 is still soldiering on at 82%, 142,000 miles. No complaints

That's terrific - very few LEAFs have done as well.

Out of interest - how often do you Rapid charge and what proportion of charging is on AC?

 

[edteamslr]

That's terrific - very few LEAFs have done as well.

Out of interest - how often do you Rapid charge and what proportion of charging is on AC?

The interesting bit is that is was used as a taxi and was almost entirely fast charged 4074QC and 171 L1/L2s.

 

[JackPreacher]

I don't hear so much conversation about env200s now. I wonder if the market has moved on. My 24 is still soldiering on at 82%, 142,000 miles. No complaints. I hope this will put the topic to the top where someone can address the 40kwh version.

same here....24kWh battery, 82.5% SOH, 70k miles.....love it but will get the UBEX battery extender as soon as COVID allows.
I charge to 100% most days.

 

[edteamslr]

same here....24kWh battery, 82.5% SOH, 70k miles.....love it but will get the UBEX battery extender as soon as COVID allows.
I charge to 100% most days.

I "timed charge" 80% almost exclusively, if I know the mrs is going further afield then I boost it ad hoc. Partly because it is a local/2nd car use case but also because it has spent a lot of time recently sat on the driveway not being driven. The UBEX looks good. I wonder if it interferes with the tow hitch mounting points.

 

[JackPreacher]

I "timed charge" 80% almost exclusively, if I know the mrs is going further afield then I boost it ad hoc. Partly because it is a local/2nd car use case but also because it has spent a lot of time recently sat on the driveway not being driven. The UBEX looks good. I wonder if it interferes with the tow hitch mounting points.

apparently not; I asked Emile from Muxsan as I had it fitted by Nissan a couple of years ago - they said it wasn't a problem.

 

[JackPreacher]

I have 93% after 45kkm (28 thousand miles) on my 40kWh Evalia, so I think 82% is really good. Here is the chart showing degradation numbers over time since I have purchased the car. Even though both 24kWh and 40kWh have forced air cooling of the battery, apparently the configuration of the ECU was not changed to account for higher heat generation in more power-dense 40kWh battery, so it is much less effective than in the 24kWh version. Unfortunately the ECU is located inside of the battery, so it is nearly impossible to change the parametrisation without opening the battery itself. This was one of the reasons why I decided to install battery extender from Muxsan. I did not want to void the warranty of my battery among other things. Consequence of this: my 7 seat Evalia is now officially a 4 seater due to higher weight of the vehicle.

Here is a chart showing the values SoH over the Odo (in km). Red dot shows the point where UBEx (Muxan Underbody Battery Extender) was installed.
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As for the discussion, I find that the "Nissan E-NV200 Electric van owners / enthusiasts" group on Facebook is quite a bit more active, there is an SoH thread started on 17th of December.

Is there any more information on the performance of the UBEX on this forum?