They probably can't correct it... Most Insurance systems are driven from a standard List known as ABI codes, the rest of the information is done by lookup from this standard list.Brian Matthews said:My V5 says "Hybrid Elec"
Another strange description is on my insurance document (the Post Office) they insist that the Ampera is a 4 door saloon and will not alter their description despite several attempts to get them to correct it. :roll:
Make Model CC Years Plan Engine Trn ABI Code Term Security ABI Group (1-50)
VAUXHALL AMPERA EARTH 1398 -2012 --4-- P A 52136901 E T1 20 Green
VAUXHALL AMPERA ELECTRON 1398 -2012 --4-- E A 52137101 E T1 21 Green
VAUXHALL AMPERA POSITIV 1398 -2012 --4-- E A 52137001 E T1 20 Green
I suspect that is just an administrative error (i.e. cock up!)Brian Matthews said:Very strange the Earth is clasified as petrol and all models are 4 door.
I just looked up my Volt on thatcham.org, and it looks like I've got more doors than you!Parax said:Brian Matthews said:I've just had a look at the tables and the floorplan data only seem to indicate in the number of doors and whether it is convertible or an estate, so it seems that saloon/hatch is the default 'other'.
The funny thing is that the most recent list is showing the Earth as Petrol! rather than Electric Like the Electron and Positiv.
Code:Make Model CC Years Plan Engine Trn ABI Code Term Security ABI Group (1-50) VAUXHALL AMPERA EARTH 1398 -2012 --4-- P A 52136901 E T1 20 Green VAUXHALL AMPERA ELECTRON 1398 -2012 --4-- E A 52137101 E T1 21 Green VAUXHALL AMPERA POSITIV 1398 -2012 --4-- E A 52137001 E T1 20 Green
Manufacturer Model Series Year CC Fuel Gear Box No. of Doors Group (1-50) Group Type Security BHP Seats
CHEVROLET VOLT 1 2012 On 1398 E A 5 22 E T1 148 5
VAUXHALL AMPERA EARTH 2012 On 1398 P A 4 20 E T1 148 4
VAUXHALL AMPERA ELECTRON 1 2012 On 1398 E A 4 21 E T1 148 4
VAUXHALL AMPERA POSITIV 1 2012 On 1398 E A 4 20 E T1 148 4
ha! yup, but why is it a grp 22? its a cheaper car so you'd expect it to rate lower. Maybe its that extra seat! that'll be 5 whiplash claims instead of 4 on the ampera! or maybe the vauxhall lifetime warranty is helping to reduce theirs.Duncan said:Hmm. Apparently I should have more seats too, but they seem to have forgotten to fit the fifth one.Code:Manufacturer Model Series Year CC Fuel Gear Box No. of Doors Group (1-50) Group Type Security BHP Seats CHEVROLET VOLT 1 2012 On 1398 E A 5 22 E T1 148 5
I saw a possible explanation of the insurance groups in one of the reviews back about February or March: they reckoned that with fewer dealers spares for the Volt might be harder to come by, so that pushes the insurance group up by 1, but because the purchase price is lower the actual cost of the insurance will be about the same.Parax said:ha! yup, but why is it a grp 22? its a cheaper car so you'd expect it to rate lower. Maybe its that extra seat! that'll be 5 whiplash claims instead of 4 on the ampera! or maybe the vauxhall lifetime warranty is helping to reduce theirs.Duncan said:Hmm. Apparently I should have more seats too, but they seem to have forgotten to fit the fifth one.Code:Manufacturer Model Series Year CC Fuel Gear Box No. of Doors Group (1-50) Group Type Security BHP Seats CHEVROLET VOLT 1 2012 On 1398 E A 5 22 E T1 148 5
I think of a 'hybrid' in terms of the number of motive sources on the vehicle and not the number of outside energy sources it uses. It's the combining of motive sources, in effect increasing the amount of useful energy available from petrol, that does the magic.Paul Churchley said:the Prius isn't a hybrid at all. All non-plugin hybrids get there energy from petrol. OK, they can then store some of it is a battery for use later but all the energy the car uses comes from petrol. So to me, current hybrids are not really dual energy source vehicles.
Actually this is not so. The current model Prius only has one fuel source... petrol.Parax said:if you look at a Prius it's primary fuel is petrol but, it does technically have a second fuel source, and just because you don't fill it up doesn't mean its not a fuel (just as you don't fill up a solar car) but by exploiting something that all other cars give off to the environment, that being regeneration from the braking energy, there is a second energy store available to the drive-train. albeit a very minor amount in comparison with other duel fuels.