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Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla plans to open its Supercharger network to other automakers later this year.
It’s something that has been in the works for a while.
It’s hard to put a number on that value, but there’s no doubt at this point that Tesla’s Supercharger network is the most extensive electric vehicle fast-charging network in the world.
Instead of relying on third-party charging networks like most other automakers, Tesla developed its own network from the ground up, which was more of a necessity, considering how early Tesla was with electric vehicles.
A decade after deploying the first Supercharger, Tesla now has over 25,000 Superchargers at over 2,700 stations around the world.
Unlike third-party networks like Ionity, Electrify America, or ChargePoint, only Tesla vehicles can charge on the Supercharger network.
However, Tesla has often indicated that it is open to the idea of sharing the Supercharger network with other automakers, but it would be dependent on coming to an agreement on sharing the cost.
The automaker has been rumored to be in discussions with other automakers to come to such a deal in the past, but we have never seen any actual results.
Last year, CEO Elon Musk even said that Tesla Superchargers are now being used “low-key” by other automakers.
Last month, Electrek reported on Tesla actually confirming to the Norwegian government that it planned to open the network to other automakers in order to get access to subsidies.
Some thought that it would only be for a few stations in Norway, but we reported on the Electrek podcast that Tesla was planning a wider opening of the network through an adapter and an update to its mobile app:

Musk has now confirmed plans to open the network for the time and even attached a timeline.
The CEO commented on Twitter when discussing Tesla’s proprietary connector:
We created our own connector, as there was no standard back then and Tesla was only maker of long-range electric cars. It’s one fairly slim connector for both low & high power charging. That said, we’re making our Supercharger network open to other EVs later this year.
In North America, Tesla is using its own connector and it is going to have to offer an adapter to other owners of other electric vehicles for them to use the network.
In Europe, Tesla is now using the CCS standard, and it is going to be easier for them to open the Supercharger network in the market.
 

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would be interesting to see the outcome of this.
not sure I understand why other car manufacturers need to pay for the existing network... surely thats recouped by pricing models for the consumer.
If I want to use a supercharge point, then just like Instavolt, Im going to expact something like 60p per kWh on PAYG.
 

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If automakers don't cough then I'd think end users will be seeing a very high price per kWh. It's not going to be free of development or support time to allow other manufacturers to use the chargers so it needs to be paid for by someone.
 

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If automakers don't cough then I'd think end users will be seeing a very high price per kWh. It's not going to be free of development or support time to allow other manufacturers to use the chargers so it needs to be paid for by someone.
And it's currently a big incentive to buy a Tesla. If the network is available to other brands, they'll presumably lose some sales, which they'll want to recoup somehow. I'm thinking they'll want investment in the network as well as Ionity type charges.
 

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They can't make enough vehicles to meet demand, and I think it will stay like that for a long time to come.

Meanwhile Tesla have an underutilised network to run and maintain. A network which frankly is the gold standard. Opening it up might annoy some owners, who may then go off and buy another brand ... but I bet even they will continue to use superchargers, if the price is right.
 

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I think the only thing that will make this happen at scale is if another manufacturer committed billions to expanding the network. Otherwise the downside to loyal Tesla customers will be too much to bear. This way it’s a win win.
 

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Oof. There goes the one reason to buy a Tesla.
 

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Oof. There goes the one reason to buy a Tesla.
There goes one reason to buy a Tesla, assuming that either a. You can no longer get a supercharger when you want one or b. The other cars with access are better than Teslas.

I can’t think of another electric car I’d choose over a model 3 for the money just yet, even if the supercharger network didn’t even exist.
 

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Oof. There goes the one reason to buy a Tesla.
Not sure that’s the mindset of everybody to be honest, it was probably more common in the ‘early days’.

We’ve had our M3 about 4 months, we’ve Supercharged twice, and one of those was just trying them out.

Judging by the amount of Tesla’s I see on non Tesla chargers, we’re not the only ones who don’t use them much I guess.

It’s nice to know the network is there, don’t get me wrong, but it’s still not omnipresent and some of the sites leave a bit to be desired to be honest.

I’d also say the ‘Gold Standard’ would be a hub like the Gridserve site at Braintree as well.
 

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I think the only thing that will make this happen at scale is if another manufacturer committed billions to expanding the network. Otherwise the downside to loyal Tesla customers will be too much to bear. This way it’s a win win.
TBH this is such a big and important step, as a large (for retail) shareholder, i would like to see this put to share holder vote and approval. It has to be Win/Win/Win. Win = Other automakers pays lots of upfront money to maintain / expand the supercharger Network , Win = for non Tesla cars it should be priced 3 x per kwh more than Tesla owners pay, same model as Ionity use to keep their chargers available for their members, Win = This create two extra large revenue streams but will put off huge spam charging by the plebs. If i get to a 10 stall Supercharger i only ever want to see 2 in use buy "other brands" and the majority free for Tesla owners only.

If Tesla fook this up it will ruin the brand for a fair while and hit sales, if out of 10 stalls none are free , 2 are charging Tesla's, all the rest "other" brands, and we have to queue with the plebs.
 

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But that's not as entertaining as pulling up to a supercharger in a PHEV that'll take 4 hours :cool:;)
You know a PHEV that has CCS?

Fill your boots.

Some of us have more interesting things to do. Like watching paint dry.
 

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You know a PHEV that has CCS?

Fill your boots.

Some of us have more interesting things to do. Like watching paint dry.
Good grief why so serious, ever heard of a joke or are you missing all of my winky face emojis?
 

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Good grief why so serious, ever heard of a joke or are you missing all of my winky face emojis?
No, I don’t get the joke.

This is the forum that brings out the pitchforks whenever a PHEV is seen blocking a rapid charger.

It’s clearly a very serious issue.

But I don’t make the rules.
 

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TBH this is such a big and important step, as a large (for retail) shareholder, i would like to see this put to share holder vote and approval. It has to be Win/Win/Win. Win = Other automakers pays lots of upfront money to maintain / expand the supercharger Network , Win = for non Tesla cars it should be priced 3 x per kwh more than Tesla owners pay, same model as Ionity use to keep their chargers available for their members, Win = This create two extra large revenue streams but will put off huge spam charging by the plebs. If i get to a 10 stall Supercharger i only ever want to see 2 in use buy "other brands" and the majority free for Tesla owners only.

If Tesla fook this up it will ruin the brand for a fair while and hit sales, if out of 10 stalls none are free , 2 are charging Tesla's, all the rest "other" brands, and we have to queue with the plebs.
The ‘plebs’?

How to win friends and influence people! 😂
 
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