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From the above source:

LNT-equipped vehicles have the best performance over the NEDC (0.4) but the worst over the WLTC (2.9). Also, three vehicles equipped with LNTs (Vehicles 18, 6, and 24) had extreme NOX emission levels (1167 mg/km, 708 mg/km and 553 mg/km of NOX, respectively). This is a clear indication that, in some cases, LNT technology is tuned to deliver good performance on the certification test, but not necessarily under the more transient, real-world conditions represented by the WLTC

LNT is Lean NOx trap - a type of Catalyic converter.

The US 'cheating' VWs all have LNT.
 

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I would be very curious if any of those vehicles would actually make Euro 6 in real world driving?

Can't trust a diesel. They'll all be tarred with the same brush. Anytime any diesel fanboy says how wonderful his car is people will just assume the manufacturer is diddling the stats.
 

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Are they using LNT in conjunction with "BlueMotion" or instead of?

Edit: Forget that. I thought BlueMotion was so called because it used AdBlue,but it doesn't.
 

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I would be very curious if any of those vehicles would actually make Euro 6 in real world driving?

Some of them make Euro 6 in the WLTC 2.0 drive cycle.

WLTC can be considered as a more realistic driving cycle that can better represent actual on-road vehicle emissions, even though it is still a laboratory cycle with predefined ambient conditions and no road gradient.

Looking though the various graphs it is easy to spot which cars are ummm optimised for NEDC.
For example, vehicle 24 is .9 on NEDC and about 7 on WLTC 2.0.


This paper is a meta analysis. They re-analysied research done by others. There are 36 cars in the study with an over sampling of BMW and an under representation of many other makes.




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It is likely that many of the cars using Lean NOx Traps are cheating.

I have no idea if this is illegal in the EU or not. I don't know if the EU is willing to go after Renault, Opel and possibly other european manufacturers.
 

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Looking at some other stocks. These are one day quotes.


Tata Motors Ltd
TTMT:IN
NATL INDIA
315.80 INR
-15.90
-4.79%

Peugeot SA
UG:FP
EN PARIS

14.07EUR
-1.12
-7.38%


Bayerische Motoren Werke AG
ETR: BMW - 22 Sep 15:43 GMT+2

80.963.44 (4.08%)

Nissan Motor Co Ltd
7201:JP
TOKYO
1,140.0JPY
-28.0
-2.40%


Fiat Chrysler Automobiles N.V. (FCAU)
-NYSE
$13.51
0.62(4.39%) 15:05 - Nasdaq Real Time Price


Mazda Motor Corp (7261:Tokyo)
Last ¥1,970 JPY
Change Today +1.50 / 0.08%




 

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From BBC News:

Renault and Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn has said he is "not so worried" about the impact of the VW scandal on the car industry.

"Every country has their own testing and emissions. We have to adapt in the most truthful and transparent way," he said.

A pretty relaxed attitude given that Renault shares are down almost 7% today simply due to VW's actions.
 

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He holds the trump card though - the only big manufacturer pushing hard on EVs (forcing dealers to sell them etc)

Gives him a nice bit of armour and he will be aware the share price is just the usual market reaction
 

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Interesting quote from an ex German environmental agency official:

Axel Friedrich, a former senior official at the German federal environmental agency, was a rare dissenting voice, telling Spiegel magazine:

"This is basically nothing new. It’s just bad luck that VW was caught first. In Europe there are a number of similar cases, only we have no follow-up checks. We close our eyes and pretend everything is fine."

Volkswagen CEO Martin Winterkorn could learn fate at board meeting tonight - LIVE
 

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Shame, diesel-electric hybrids always seemed the most sensible option to me (diesel engine running at constant rpm = ideal operating conditions, no need for turbos or any real complexity even in the emission trap).
 

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Shame, diesel-electric hybrids always seemed the most sensible option to me (diesel engine running at constant rpm = ideal operating conditions, no need for turbos or any real complexity even in the emission trap).
If, in respect of private and light goods vehicles, you had said petrol instead of diesel I would have agreed with you.

Dieselgate claims its first victims... at Peugeot Citroën!
(article is in French)

Peugeot arrête les voitures hybrides diesel
Good on PSA for showing leadership, clearly another round in the France v Germany car manufacturing contest to come.

Good info on light hydraulic hybrid to be found here:

Green Car Congress: Bosch offers more details on the light-duty hydraulic-hybrid drive developed with PSA

and the mild electric hybrid here:

Green Car Congress: Bosch 48V mild hybrid system to be production-ready by 2017; Gen 2 prototype integrated in transmission for all-electric driving
 

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Dieselgate claims its first victims... at Peugeot Citroën!
(article is in French)
Translation (courtesy of Google) below.

The diesel hybrid Peugeot, it's over! The French brand has just confirmed stopping Hybrid4 engine that equipped some of its models.

While Renault announced at the Frankfurt Motor Show the arrival of a diesel hybrid version of the new Megane (see subject), Peugeot backtracked on this technology by announcing the cessation of models with the Hybrid4 system developed jointly with the German supplier Bosch.

Available on the Peugeot 508 and 3008, the diesel-electric system proposed by Peugeot since 2011 would not be profitable enough for the builder who now wants to move towards plug-in hybrid gasoline whose marketing will occur by 2017.

"It is not efficient enough in terms of economy of scale and the development of these technologies has a significant cost," explained Maxime Picat, the owner of the brand, during an interview with Autocar website.

Citroën hand, if nothing has been formalized to date, it's a safe bet that the brand to the rafters follow the direction initiated by Peugeot
 
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