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So I took the plunge and find myself sitting in sunny Glasgow after driving up. Took me about 5 hours to Stoke on first day and 8 hours from Stoke to Glasgow. Only one issue when I missed Killington Lake Services which can only be accessed South on M6. Don't worry you can get there from North carriageway but I totally messed up. I had enough power to get to Tebay which I thought had a 32 amp socket but this would not work with Leaf and only other charger was for Tesla.

This is no mans land as no way I could make Gretna so with 14% remaining, I took decision to travel 10 miles south back to Killington. No need to travel via next M6 junction as you can get to the south carriage way at Tebay via bridge.

Many thanks to Andy the Forecourt Manager for his assistance. From chatting with him, all the Westmorland Services are due to have Ecotricity Rapids fitted asap including Penrith. These will make life far simpler. This error cost me a heart stopping moment of nearly running out of power and probably 90 mins.

These were my stops:-

Left Bentley, Essex 100%
South Mimms arrived 20% charged to 90%
Northampton arrived 30% charged to 85%
Norton Canes arrived 20% charged to 90%
Arrived Stoke arrived 55%
(225 miles)

Left Stoke 100%
Charnock Richard arrived 20% charged to 88%
Killington Lake arrived 4% charged to 87%
Gretna arrived 33% charged to 88%
Abingdon arrived 40% charged to 92%
Glasgow arrived 45%

(300 miles)

In conclusion I really enjoyed the trip. I have learnt it's very important to be totally sure how the service areas are accessed and general location. The doubling up of many of the Rapids takes away a huge amount of anxiety. One point was not working properly at Gretna and without the second I would have been stuck. Tried to use a CYC Rapid when out for dinner in Glasgow last night but app would not communicate. Unfortunately my CYC card had not arrived when I left. I trickled charged overnight with family so also very important to have both charging leads.

I think it's best to do 50-60 mile stints and keep 30% in reserve where possible. Battery temp was fine although if doing trip in one day then could be a problem. Went up to 8 bars briefly but this settled back down to 6.

I did some slip streaming mainly travelling at 60 mph. I arrived far less tired than when using my previous ICE. I think this is largely due to the many short stops and leg stretching.

Best thing I saved approx £200 in travel costs. Awesome
 

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Im thinking of the lake district in mine, as you say the doubling up of rapids helps.
 

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From Bentley (near Colchester? Biggest village green in the UK?) wouldn't it have been better to make for Cambridge and then Leics. Forest East? A120 the up via S. Walden? There's a rapid at S. Walden but it cost £5 a charge.
 

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@philsuarez great information and looks like you had a great adventure. Do you have the mileages between each re-charge as this would help me understand if my Leaf has similar performance. Having recently traversed the Pennines between Bolton and York on the M62 I was concerned that the hills would take more of a toll than they did.

I agree that staying at ~60mph is a good balance between safety and performance (and boredom) and leaving 50-60 miles between charges is a safe policy. However there is currently a sparse service north of Preston until Gretna so the feedback you gave is great. I was considering the northern double-back to Killington which is the only option.
 

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Hi Andrew. The distances were pretty much all 50-60 mile gaps. Longest stretch was Northampton to Norton Canes on M6 toll and Killington to Gretna which is similar. The key at Killington is to come off M6 as directed by Satnav and travel back South approx 2 miles. There is an access road with no entry sign in the main Carpark for when you want to head back north which leads onto small local road and back to where you originally came off. Failing to take this means heading south for next proper junction and then a 70 mile stretch to Gretna rather than 61 miles. Hopefully as mentioned Tebay and Penrith will soon have a rapid. Re my journey from near Great Bentley, I did consider Cambridge Extra but was already in Chelmsford so made sense to go via South Mimms and M1. More redundancy in chargers on M1 as I was worried about gap between Cambridge Extra and Leics at 70 miles. Any down Rapid would leave me stranded with little back up plan.
 

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Killington to Gretna is the real crunch point at moment as if both doubles are out at either end then little other charging options available. Charnock Richard to Killington is an uphill stretch heading north of 60 miles so best stick in as much juice as possible at Charnock. This is close to Preston so at least other options available if Charnock down unlike Killington
 

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Thanks for this - almost the reverse of the trip I did when younger and more stupid (a few months ago) ;-)

There's a rapid at Peterborough which would fill the gap from Cambridge to Leicester, albeit with a bit of a diversion. It'd be good to see them fit one around the A14/A1 junction.

It's good to see people getting around in EVs, even if it is a bit elongated compared with an ICE ...
 

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A 60 mile stretch is easily achieved even from 85% but you must keep speed under 60 mph. Travelling behind a lorry does make a huge difference as well. Else where on the route other than the points discussed in detail you can charge every 50 miles so speed management not such an issue. In Glasgow a CYC card is essential as app not always reliable
 

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I always try to stick to 52 it seems to do the trick for me and in time the difference is so little, long live the slow boring drive, not for me as I love free driving its boring for all the you are never going to get there idiots telling me how you must drive much quicker, I say please pass me see you at the next roundabout or junction, but not in the petrol garage
 

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I always try to stick to 52 it seems to do the trick for me and in time the difference is so little, long live the slow boring drive, not for me as I love free driving its boring for all the you are never going to get there idiots telling me how you must drive much quicker, I say please pass me see you at the next roundabout or junction, but not in the petrol garage
You say that, but if we head out and I go a bit quicker, I get to the charger first, that could hold you up by 30-40 minutes or more.

This isn't an issue when there's multiple rapids (or at all for fossil burners) but I have to say when I had to go slow towards a charger I was really looking out for another EV overtaking me, I may have floored it and to hell with the consequences had that happened! :D
 

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I say it's your charger sir, to be honest if I get a charge and its free then my time has to suffer, but I always have the I get there when I do attitude, I will always leave to much time for every journey, so for me its not a problem if someone is charging.
Im layed back about life so I get less stressed, im fact what is this stress thingy
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I love saying
Come on people keep your toys in our prams.

Some times even makes them more stressed / upset
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So I took the plunge and find myself sitting in sunny Glasgow after driving up. Took me about 5 hours to Stoke on first day and 8 hours from Stoke to Glasgow. Only one issue when I missed Killington Lake Services which can only be accessed South on M6. Don't worry you can get there from North carriageway but I totally messed up. I had enough power to get to Tebay which I thought had a 32 amp socket but this would not work with Leaf and only other charger was for Tesla.

This is no mans land as no way I could make Gretna so with 14% remaining, I took decision to travel 10 miles south back to Killington. No need to travel via next M6 junction as you can get to the south carriage way at Tebay via bridge.

Many thanks to Andy the Forecourt Manager for his assistance. From chatting with him, all the Westmorland Services are due to have Ecotricity Rapids fitted asap including Penrith. These will make life far simpler. This error cost me a heart stopping moment of nearly running out of power and probably 90 mins.

These were my stops:-

Left Bentley, Essex 100%
South Mimms arrived 20% charged to 90%
Northampton arrived 30% charged to 85%
Norton Canes arrived 20% charged to 90%
Arrived Stoke arrived 55%
(225 miles)

Left Stoke 100%
Charnock Richard arrived 20% charged to 88%
Killington Lake arrived 4% charged to 87%
Gretna arrived 33% charged to 88%
Abingdon arrived 40% charged to 92%
Glasgow arrived 45%

(300 miles)

In conclusion I really enjoyed the trip. I have learnt it's very important to be totally sure how the service areas are accessed and general location. The doubling up of many of the Rapids takes away a huge amount of anxiety. One point was not working properly at Gretna and without the second I would have been stuck. Tried to use a CYC Rapid when out for dinner in Glasgow last night but app would not communicate. Unfortunately my CYC card had not arrived when I left. I trickled charged overnight with family so also very important to have both charging leads.

I think it's best to do 50-60 mile stints and keep 30% in reserve where possible. Battery temp was fine although if doing trip in one day then could be a problem. Went up to 8 bars briefly but this settled back down to 6.

I did some slip streaming mainly travelling at 60 mph. I arrived far less tired than when using my previous ICE. I think this is largely due to the many short stops and leg stretching.

Best thing I saved approx £200 in travel costs. Awesome
Hi Phil,
Great to hear such a success story on a long journey in the LEAF. And what a saving - £200!
Please do let us know of other adventures you take in her :)
^GH
 

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Paul then its them getting stressed not me I love my attitude to life these days
I love saying
Come on people keep your toys in our prams.

Some times even makes them more stressed / upset
Lol
So people waiting for you, maybe family, maybe business contacts are becoming stressed and possibly upset by your choices, but you carry on regardless, to the extent of even finding it amusing?

Ouch.
 

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I say please dont use my business the customer has the choice, I usually find if they trust you they dont go elsewhere, and surley I can leave to much time to get there, if it was ultra important I get there I would not use my leaf it would be one of my other vehicles,
 

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So have completed part of my return journey and now back in Stoke for overnight stay. Trip was going very well until Gretna when I found both Rapids down. One had the same fault I discovered Wednesday and the other still had a faulty handle. I managed to get this started the other day but no such luck today. Luckily I had topped up 20% at the previous rapid although this left me five miles short for Killington. Managed to get to Penrith and charged on a 3kw point at Renault dealer. Very helpful although they did charge me a fiver which I thought was a bit steep. Surely the motor trade should support EV drivers? Anyhow managed to get to Killington and then a further charge at Charnock Richard brought me into Stoke. Was heading for 250 mile trip in 6 hours but for the Gretna fail. Worrying that I reported faults to Ecotricity on Wednesday and again today and yet the map is still showing both points operational. Also came across two Model S Tesla that charged for a long time. Still hats off to the Electric Highway. Southern England to Scotland now very possible.
 

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Ooh, Gretna down? I was lucky when I did it then - I only had 12 miles left when I got to Gretna, couldn't have made Penrith! Armstrong and Fleming in Penrith? They charged me a tenner so at least they are getting cheaper ...

I think the last thing the motor trade wants to do is support drivers who have chosen cars which will put them out of business (when was the last time you went to a "specialist Indesit dealer" to buy a washing machine, or had your tumble dryer serviced?)

Glad to hear you made it though!
 

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I cant believe they charge you a fiver, iv got a thing from ebay that tells you how much in money units kwh volts amps timer its all singing and dancing its a really good way of showing the person exactly how much you or should I say how little you have stolen from them
 
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