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Hi - after much thought I've finally put my GTE up for sale with a plan to replace with an EV. Looking to buy a used EV for the same price as I sell the GTE, so a budget of up to around £16k / £17k if I can manage it. Considering a 24KW eGolf or a 28KW Ioniq. I have not driven an Ioniq but from what I see it looks to be more efficient and so a range advantage but I think I'd miss being in a Golf and VW quality. I'd be interested in any views and also if there is any other EV I should consider? It will be mainly local journeys with occasional requirement to do maybe a 80 mile round trip but am also conscious it would be good to have a bit of extra range if needed. GTE if anyone is interested is a 2016 with 32,000 miles and asking for £15,250. Good condition although the alloys are a bit discoloured, not kerb damage but blemishes in the alloy. Looking forward to leaving the dinosaur fuel behind but sad to lose what has been a great car. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
 

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I had a GTE, now have the later eGolf and struggle to imagine having 30% less range!

The Ioniq charges faster and goes (much) further, it's just a better EV. I still miss proper supportive sports seats from the GTE though - it sounds like a pretty good fit for your needs so why so keen to change?
 

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Hi - after much thought I've finally put my GTE up for sale with a plan to replace with an EV. Looking to buy a used EV for the same price as I sell the GTE, so a budget of up to around £16k / £17k if I can manage it. Considering a 24KW eGolf or a 28KW Ioniq. I have not driven an Ioniq but from what I see it looks to be more efficient and so a range advantage but I think I'd miss being in a Golf and VW quality. I'd be interested in any views and also if there is any other EV I should consider? It will be mainly local journeys with occasional requirement to do maybe a 80 mile round trip but am also conscious it would be good to have a bit of extra range if needed. GTE if anyone is interested is a 2016 with 32,000 miles and asking for £15,250. Good condition although the alloys are a bit discoloured, not kerb damage but blemishes in the alloy. Looking forward to leaving the dinosaur fuel behind but sad to lose what has been a great car. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
With your budget, a Kia Soul EV (30kWh).
A 2nd gen Leaf maybe if you look hard and are happy with the lower trim levels.
 

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I had a GTE, now have the later eGolf and struggle to imagine having 30% less range!

The Ioniq charges faster and goes (much) further, it's just a better EV. I still miss proper supportive sports seats from the GTE though - it sounds like a pretty good fit for your needs so why so keen to change?
Main thing that set me thinking about changing was upcoming costs of timing belt etc but also I have got to like driving on electric and like the idea of less complexity in a pure EV. So cheaper to run and better for the environment v missing the fun of a GTE is the balance I am weighing up.
 

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With your budget, a Kia Soul EV (30kWh).
A 2nd gen Leaf maybe if you look hard and are happy with the lower trim levels.
Thanks for the reply - I guess the appeal of the Ioniq, which are within budget, is the efficiency which seems good in terms of miles / kwh - so 5 plus from what I see mentioned.
 

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Hi - after much thought I've finally put my GTE up for sale with a plan to replace with an EV. Looking to buy a used EV for the same price as I sell the GTE, so a budget of up to around £16k / £17k if I can manage it. Considering a 24KW eGolf or a 28KW Ioniq. I have not driven an Ioniq but from what I see it looks to be more efficient and so a range advantage but I think I'd miss being in a Golf and VW quality. I'd be interested in any views and also if there is any other EV I should consider? It will be mainly local journeys with occasional requirement to do maybe a 80 mile round trip but am also conscious it would be good to have a bit of extra range if needed. GTE if anyone is interested is a 2016 with 32,000 miles and asking for £15,250. Good condition although the alloys are a bit discoloured, not kerb damage but blemishes in the alloy. Looking forward to leaving the dinosaur fuel behind but sad to lose what has been a great car. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Are the blemishes in the alloys part and parcel of the famous VW quality?
 

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After owning a GTE for over four years and loving it, when the time came for making the jump to a full BEV it was difficult.
The e.Golf was the natural path to go down.
I booked a 48 hour test drive through my local dealer.
The car was every thing I expected it to be, but when comparing it to the features on offer from the GTE it felt like a BIG step back.
The e.Golf looks very much like a basic Golf both inside and out.
This can be a bit off putting, considering the price of this model.
I really enjoyed the two day test drive, but after the GTE it just left me feeling a bit “short changed” somehow ?.
It’s difficult because the GTE is a really hard act to follow.
You have to be totally committed to wanting to go down full EV path.
I say this because as we know, EV’s are NOT cheap !.
So, if you want a decent range and the features / trim level offered by the GTE - you are going to really really struggle !.
You will have to give up a lot of features in exchange for that full electric propulsion.
I don’t envy your task to be honest.
As I have become older, I found getting in and out of lower sporty hatch back getting harder and harder as each year passes.
The move to a higher ride height EV has become a real necessity.
I was able to sell my GTE privately and exploited the introductory offer on the MG ZS EV.
It suited my needs and the spec and features did a good job of matching the features on the GTE.
I have owned this car for almost 11 months now and I have zero regrets of making the switch over to full electric.
I have covered more miles in this car this year ( with two lock downs included ) than many of my previous cars.
Electric cars are brilliant to drive and are also super cheap to run !.
Good luck with your search.
 

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Main thing that set me thinking about changing was upcoming costs of timing belt etc but also I have got to like driving on electric and like the idea of less complexity in a pure EV. So cheaper to run and better for the environment v missing the fun of a GTE is the balance I am weighing up.
You lost me here 🙄, you thinking of changing and paying another £2000.00 quid because of the cost of "up coming" timing belt change?
I get the EV point, I've done the same but the timing belt replacement.......so to "save" on change that probably will cost few hundred quid, you will pay few thousand?
 

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After owning a GTE for over four years and loving it, when the time came for making the jump to a full BEV it was difficult.
The e.Golf was the natural path to go down.
I booked a 48 hour test drive through my local dealer.
The car was every thing I expected it to be, but when comparing it to the features on offer from the GTE it felt like a BIG step back.
The e.Golf looks very much like a basic Golf both inside and out.
This can be a bit off putting, considering the price of this model.
I really enjoyed the two day test drive, but after the GTE it just left me feeling a bit “short changed” somehow ?.
It’s difficult because the GTE is a really hard act to follow.
You have to be totally committed to wanting to go down full EV path.
I say this because as we know, EV’s are NOT cheap !.
So, if you want a decent range and the features / trim level offered by the GTE - you are going to really really struggle !.
You will have to give up a lot of features in exchange for that full electric propulsion.
I don’t envy your task to be honest.
As I have become older, I found getting in and out of lower sporty hatch back getting harder and harder as each year passes.
The move to a higher ride height EV has become a real necessity.
I was able to sell my GTE privately and exploited the introductory offer on the MG ZS EV.
It suited my needs and the spec and features did a good job of matching the features on the GTE.
I have owned this car for almost 11 months now and I have zero regrets of making the switch over to full electric.
I have covered more miles in this car this year ( with two lock downs included ) than many of my previous cars.
Electric cars are brilliant to drive and are also super cheap to run !.
Good luck with your search.
Interesting, no really 😀

Apart from and ICE engine, what did the e-Golf lack over the GTE? Was it a base e-Golf that you test drove?

I ask because having an e-Golf, which I love, I do wonder if a GTE would have been an option. I never thought of it at the time.
 

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After owning a GTE for over four years and loving it, when the time came for making the jump to a full BEV it was difficult.
The e.Golf was the natural path to go down.
I booked a 48 hour test drive through my local dealer.
The car was every thing I expected it to be, but when comparing it to the features on offer from the GTE it felt like a BIG step back.
The e.Golf looks very much like a basic Golf both inside and out.
This can be a bit off putting, considering the price of this model.
I really enjoyed the two day test drive, but after the GTE it just left me feeling a bit “short changed” somehow ?.
It’s difficult because the GTE is a really hard act to follow.
You have to be totally committed to wanting to go down full EV path.
I say this because as we know, EV’s are NOT cheap !.
So, if you want a decent range and the features / trim level offered by the GTE - you are going to really really struggle !.
You will have to give up a lot of features in exchange for that full electric propulsion.
I don’t envy your task to be honest.
As I have become older, I found getting in and out of lower sporty hatch back getting harder and harder as each year passes.
The move to a higher ride height EV has become a real necessity.
I was able to sell my GTE privately and exploited the introductory offer on the MG ZS EV.
It suited my needs and the spec and features did a good job of matching the features on the GTE.
I have owned this car for almost 11 months now and I have zero regrets of making the switch over to full electric.
I have covered more miles in this car this year ( with two lock downs included ) than many of my previous cars.
Electric cars are brilliant to drive and are also super cheap to run !.
Good luck with your search.
Thanks for the comprehensive reply. I guess knowing the eGolf won't match in terms of spec is probably a factor for me and so am starting to reckon that I will err on the side of best value in terms of range - hence considering the Ioniq which from looking at reviews seems impressive. I recognise it is not quite the premium feel of an upmarket Golf but if it can provide a reasonable range then it looks like a good option. The more I have looked at the 28kw v 38kw Ioniq I have also begun to realise that the lighter 28kw vehicle with less time to charge a smaller battery will probably make most sense for the majority of sub 100 mile journeys I do, whilst having the ability to replenish fairly swiftly but more frequently on longer journeys. Which given only the 28kw is in my budget is a bonus! Lack of things to go wrong in terms of moving away from an ICE is also a big attraction. Good to hear the MG ZS EV has been a good choice for you - given the level of spec and some having a sun roof they seem quite a good option but not so keen on being higher up especially in terms of efficiency. I think I will have to get used to more planning in terms of longer journeys but that's ok as charging option seem to be opening up more.

Padrino on the budget side I was looking at the next three years in terms of overall warranty, servicing and running costs versus electric and came out roughly £2k cheaper when I had looked at servicing costing less and adding in timing belt and DSG oil change which together I guessed at around £800. There are Ioniq's out there for about £16k so cost of switch could potentially be less.
 

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You lost me here 🙄, you thinking of changing and paying another £2000.00 quid because of the cost of "up coming" timing belt change?
There's an article in (The Guardian 9th Nov) about costs to replace a part in a Passat PHEV. Worth 10 minutes to read. If you go for the KIA/Hyundai you're also looking at 7 or 5 year warranty.

Have you asked for a valuation from the online buying sites or EV specialists?
 

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There's an article in (The Guardian 9th Nov) about costs to replace a part in a Passat PHEV. Worth 10 minutes to read. If you go for the KIA/Hyundai you're also looking at 7 or 5 year warranty.

Have you asked for a valuation from the online buying sites or EV specialists?
Generally I don't read Guardian (tooooo left for my taste 😂) however, I just read the article....scary. With a reports like this, the 2030 ban on ICE car sales will be moving further into the future.
 

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There's an article in (The Guardian 9th Nov) about costs to replace a part in a Passat PHEV. Worth 10 minutes to read. If you go for the KIA/Hyundai you're also looking at 7 or 5 year warranty.

Have you asked for a valuation from the online buying sites or EV specialists?
These stories are all part of the deluded quality experience on offer from VW, that same mendacious bunch of cheats
 

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I went from a 2016 Golf GTE to a 28kwh Ioniq Premium at the beginning of the year.
Ioniq over e-Golf any day. I've done a 1400 mile Scottish road trip and doing 65mph on the motorway usually returns round about 5 miles/ kwh in the summer, and about 4.5 now in the winter. Like you, agree there are elements of GTE I miss, like slightly sleekier looking interior with the lighting and snappier steering. Ioniq has stuff like Lane Keep Assist and a wireless charging slot and heated seats as standard, and audio slightly nicer if you're a bit more audiophile inclined. Charges up to 69kw too, 10-80% in just 19 min.
 

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I went from a 2016 Golf GTE to a 28kwh Ioniq Premium at the beginning of the year.
Ioniq over e-Golf any day. I've done a 1400 mile Scottish road trip and doing 65mph on the motorway usually returns round about 5 miles/ kwh in the summer, and about 4.5 now in the winter. Like you, agree there are elements of GTE I miss, like slightly sleekier looking interior with the lighting and snappier steering. Ioniq has stuff like Lane Keep Assist and a wireless charging slot and heated seats as standard, and audio slightly nicer if you're a bit more audiophile inclined. Charges up to 69kw too, 10-80% in just 19 min.
Many thanks Calvinooo, as I guess it’s going to come down to eGolf or Ioniq really good to get a sense from someone who has made the change from a GTE - plus good audio is always a winner with me. Thanks also for sharing your experience of the Ioniq’s efficiency and charge rates.
 

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I went from a GTE to an e-Golf and genuinely didn’t think I was giving up much in terms of trim etc.

The GTE has fancier/larger alloys, sports seats, some interior blue lights on the doors and on the GTE 7.5 a ‘sportier’ front bumper. Ride height is similar, but it’s mainly the wheels and front bumper that makes the GTE look sportier. The ‘McGolf’ blue tartan seats are the main difference in the interior.

I think if you find an e-Golf with the AID and interior lighting pack, then it’s not much different inside. You could even retrofit the GTE seats, but you’d probably have to be a Golf enthusiast to do that.

Warranty concerns are real on the GTE, I extended mine with VW to the maximum 100k mile limit, and it was inexpensive. Once I was approaching the mileage limit, it was a factor in me moving it on.

I don’t think a sample of 2 x Passat GTEs that were out of warranty is typical of the VW experience, that is dependent too on the dealer you’re dealing with. In any event, getting manufacturer support from any brand after the warranty has expired is always going to be less straightforward than one where the warranty hasn’t expired.

I’ve never driven an Ioniq, but owners on here seem to love them. I do like the idea of having a smaller battery and sweating the asset so to speak, I used to do that with the e-Golf, but that only worked on my regular out of range trips because I had access to reliable rapid charging en-route, so if you do go down that road have a think about where you’re going to be using it and what sort of multi unit charging sites you would be able to use. I’m thinking Instavolt here really. The smaller battery on the Ioniq or e-Golf will be ideal for even 50kw Rapids, and the latter is capped at 40kw max anyway.
 
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