@brian orr I don't really understand what you are saying here, sorry.I've placed a post on the EVDA Forum Website! Amongst other comments, I've indicated that if this issue is raised within EVDA, then a response from the responsible agency would be made available.
No, I'm not a EVDA member and I can't realistically participate while ZCW is active in this space. I know several other Speak EV participants have similar conflicts that prevent membership. If you are going to post in the Speak EV forum can you at least ensure that non-members understand your post?are you an EVDA Member and have you actually read my post on the EVDA Forum?
I have championed the cause of EV drivers for many years and was instrumental in the formation of EVDA... clearly my charitable and commercial activities have the potential to conflict with my membership of any organisation and that's why I operate outside of most 'common interest groups'.I really don't understand how someone who regularly exhorts EVDA to action - can at the same time speak in the terms, as above.
I completely agree with you @Paul Newport and wish we could all focus our efforts on the Speak EV forum where I feel sure EVDA could undertake the majority of their businessCan I make one general suggestion? We try and rationalise the forums. Much as I prefer the Google plus platform to here (the software is much much better) I now post primarily here and haven't posted at all in the EVDA forum. Likewise I've given up on Leaf talk. So as a starting point let's push people towards this forum, and with a democratic bent in mind, encourage the EVDA to present a sensible and rational voice for EV and prospective EV drivers.
@brian orr unfortunately, I received your obnoxious PM via email... you need to REALLY rethink your approach and your attitude towards the many people on this forum trying to make a difference. I do not wish to communicate with you further, please ignore my posts and do NOT send me a PM again.OK, I've deleted the PM!
I have to apologise if people think that I have got personal with Brian. I try not to, (honest!), but I am afraid that I am just responding to his personal comments about me and my private communications with the EVDA. I find it absolutely incredible that Brian, a member of the EVDA committee, is willing to discuss EVDA private communications on a public forum. Moreover, it is even more unbelievable that he has the details of what he is disclosing incorrect!Please again everyone try not to get personal to each other, I think we all generally want the same thing – EV success – even if we don't all go about it the same way.
Paul, why do you need EVDA permission to create a forum here? I would strongly support a separate forum for discussion of the EVDA here. It wouldn't be an official forum or mouthpiece of the EVDA but surely that is not the purpose of this forum. It would be a forum for us all to discuss all issues involving the EVDA. Members, non-members, pro and anti. The EVDA would surely benefit from reading the comments and if they wanted to respond then it would be a great way for them to interact and engage with their members but particularly non-members that might be interested in joining.Just to say that the EVDA is welcome here, as are discussions about and concerning it. Although some EVDA matters are surely best discussed internally, and I certainly don't feel anyone should expect the EVDA to conduct their business here, it's up to them to do what they do where they do it.
For what it's worth I did volunteer for the EVDA to have a forum here of their own if they'd like (a sub forum such as the GM forums etc) but they (in the form of @Matt Beard) gracefully declined. I for one can completely understand why they would like to remain independent of any particular forum/community. I'm sure there will be many more in the future, and why would they narrow their field/appeal when they can be universal?
I don't feel the EVDA is big, important or frequently discussed enough to warrant a forum on the "regular" merit. Add that to the fact don't want one either and it's not something I can justify to myself.Paul, why do you need EVDA permission to create a forum here? I would strongly support a separate forum for discussion of the EVDA here. It wouldn't be an official forum or mouthpiece of the EVDA but surely that is not the purpose of this forum. It would be a forum for us all to discuss all issues involving the EVDA. Members, non-members, pro and anti. The EVDA would surely benefit from reading the comments and if they wanted to respond then it would be a great way for them to interact and engage with their members but particularly non-members that might be interested in joining.
I think this is being a little unkind to @Paul_Churchley. Perhaps I have got blinkers on but I only see aggro coming in one direction.@Paul_Churchley @brian orr please belt up, take your squabble offline and resolve it privately, how do you think your behaviour looks to new EV or potential EV owners visiting for the forum for the first time.
If it were me, I would look at the pair of your fighting and think, I want nothing to do with this community.
my 2c worth