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Hi.

My employer is operating a great car salary sacrifice scheme with the new Hyundai Ioniq available for £200 per month including insurance, servicing etc. Very tempting!

Here is my problem... We live in an end terrace so no off-road parking but we do park directly at the side of the house on the road. This would seem enough to make an all electric vehicle unviable BUT we do very little miles - I train commute and the wife works only a mile away in our children's school. I would estimate we might do 40-50 miles a week at the very most including trips to the shops, socialising etc. I got to thinking that with the range the Ioniq has then perhaps we could get away with only charging the car once per week. If this is the case, maybe charging whilst on the public road at the side of the house isn't such a hurdle?

Has anyone had a similar situation? Ive started to dig a bit around charging and I'm still not 100% sure what I would need to do but I kind of envisaged having the wall charger on the rear of the house and then simply plugging the cable in via the gate we have at the side of the house.

Is this viable? Once a week charging on a public road at the side of the house? Its a quiet road with almost no public footfall.

Grateful for any advice!!!
 

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Ah ok, thanks. How long to charge on at a chargemaster public charging station? There is one very close to me.
 

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The new Ioniq 37 kWh will be good for 160 miles, so refill once in 3 weeks should do! Ideally you won't run it from 100% down to empty then refill in one go, so best to keep in 20 to 80% band to minimise battery degradation. Not that your low mileage will cause much!

7kW charger at a supermarket will put in 25 miles range for each hour connected, so a couple of hours a week will see you ok. More and more gges, Shell, BP, ... Are getting Rapid chargers, so I'd say you should go for it. I would!
 

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Look on Zap-map.com to see local chargers, and what rate they go at. Any Rapid will give you 20 to 80% top-up in appx 1/2 hour ish. Your manual should state this!
 

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Wow, this is really giving me something to think about! The nearest charger is a 7kw at a train station one stop on from where I catch it and only about 500m from my wife's work (school)! Logistically that could work. Drop the wife and kids at school, drive to station, charge whilst I jump on the train to work, wife walks after work the 500m to pick the car up after work!! Not too bad of only once every ten days or so.
 

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You wouldn’t qualify for a grant towards a charge point because you have no off road parking, so that could be expensive if you fund it yourself.

If you get a three pin plug charger with the car you could probably get away with that as you won’t be doing many miles. Will probably charge at 8mph so 10 hours charging would meet your weekly needs. You could probably get one of those mats that the utility companies use to put over the trailing cable.
 

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My only question is what is stopping you.
Sounds a great scenario. The ones at the station, which network and what rates?

With your profile I don't think the lack of home charging would be of any concern. Especially as the IONIQ has such a well designed drivetrain.

Test drive one, then come back and let us know when it is getting delivered.
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:):) test drove the petrol hybrid a few months ago and loved it. That was £400 a month, the full electric is £200 a month!! The lack of off road parking to charge it was the only thing that stopped me ordering it but looks like where there is a will there is a way!!
 

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Unless you will only drive a new car, with a low millage both on cost and pollution a 2nd hand petrol car can work out best.
 

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Confused... Surely not just £1 then free to charge?
Nope, you are reading that correctly.
I live on the Wirral so also under Merseytravel. And that's the deal.
I will say that might change but I cant forsee it.

An even more convincing argument then?

If you think the petrol hybrid was good then you are in for a whole different experience. In a very good way.
 

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Go for it.

We're in a somewhat similar position - no off-street parking - and we charge around twice a week on average. We've actually ended up doing most our charging at home, overnight, and we haven't had any issues.

Initially started out trailing the cable across footpath to kerb with heavy duty hi-vis cable mat, plus "trip hazard" warning signs. Like you, it's a low-footfall footpath.

Then discovered it was quicker and easier to "fly" the cable over the path (our house is elevated above the road) and anchored around the wing mirror on far side if car.

Whatever you do for home charging, just take your time, think about the risks to pedestrians/public, plan it out, and don't skimp on your setup, esp. if you need more cable length. Also: take photos of your setup so you can later prove you've been diligent, should that prove necessary.
 

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I do way more miles than you and have managed without a home charger. I can count on one hand how many times I have briefly ran a cable outside to get a couple of extra miles in the car but otherwise have always just dealt with public charging.

Just use your car as normal, but if or when you see a charge point, plug in when you park it up somewhere. Even if you have 70% left but see your local supermarket has a charging post. Plug in even though you don't need it right now. Plug in at every opportunity you see without inconveniencing yourself. Even if they are just short bursts of power every now and then, especially with your use case I really can't imagine you would ever run out, nor would you even need to inconvenience yourself with taking a train to work.

I don't suppose you have questioned if your employer would be open to installing charge points?
 

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Confused... Surely not just £1 then free to charge?
The Polar option might be better - that's about £8 per month and all your charging would then be free at that charge point.

 

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My employer is operating a great car salary sacrifice scheme with the new Hyundai Ioniq available for £200 per month including insurance, servicing etc. Very tempting!
Is it me or does that deal sound a bit too good to be true. Especially as it includes insurance and maintenance? What company provides the car, and is it available for immediate delivery. New Ioniqs can be difficult to get hold of at the moment.

Don’t want to put a dampener on things, but I’d double check it before you get too excited.
 

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Is it me or does that deal sound a bit too good to be true. Especially as it includes insurance and maintenance? What company provides the car, and is it available for immediate delivery. New Ioniqs can be difficult to get hold of at the moment.

Don’t want to put a dampener on things, but I’d double check it before you get too excited.
I agree!!!! I have checked and checked again - even gone through the order process right to the final screen and the price on a two year lease comes to £184....!!!! This is a 'just add fuel' lease so all costs are taken care of, even tyres and other consumables. The provider is Zenith. I work in local government so there is a huge push on EV's so maybe thats part of the pricing? The lead time is 10 weeks.
My finger is hovering over the order button!
 

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Is this the company?

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How can the Zoe cost double the Ioniq and a bit more than a Model 3?

Zen Auto
 

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No, this is the supplier - https://www.zenith.co.uk/business/funding/salary-sacrifice/

The actual gross cost is around £330 per month but obviously as a salary sacrifice scheme and as a high rate tax payer, the net cost is much much less as you save on tax, NI and pension costs. The £185 figure per month is the actual net reduction in my salary per month. I think its a go'er and the valuable info received on this thread has reassured me on the charging availability front. Thanks!
 

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Wow, this is really giving me something to think about! The nearest charger is a 7kw at a train station one stop on from where I catch it and only about 500m from my wife's work (school)! Logistically that could work. Drop the wife and kids at school, drive to station, charge whilst I jump on the train to work, wife walks after work the 500m to pick the car up after work!! Not too bad of only once every ten days or so.
Of course, there's likely to be competition for the charger at the station. People who use a slow charger at a station are likely to leave their car plugged in for the working day, just as you would. If you look at it on the zap-map it will usually tell you whether it is in use or not, so you can get some idea of how likely it is to be taken.

Check the zap-map for all the local chargers, and become an opportunist charger, keeping the 3-pin "granny" cable as a back up option.

It's worth being prepared to use a variety of networks. I have a phone full of apps, and a glove compartment full of cards. Only Polar Plus demand a significant subscription. It's nice if you're in a position to make the occasional long trip, so don't confine yourself to networks with chargers near your home.
 
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