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I just wanted to say a big thanks for recent forum member referrals using my So Energy link (in signature below) and I hope they deliver the service and decent costs they have given me since I joined myself just over a year back.

(Seems slightly over-aggrandising to title a one-post thread 'megathread' but it is to ape the reciprocal threads for the electricity referrals.)

As we know, logic is not a strong point for many companies and situations, and often it is cost effective, or simply more practical for access to custom tariffs, to split one's gas and electricity between two suppliers.

I am currently on "So Energy" for gas and "Octopus go-something" (3h per evening), works out well for me.

So if anyone is looking into that likewise and wants to find a gas supplier to complement their choice of electricity supplier, give So Energy a look as it's a £40 referral which offsets quite a few gas units and even if you swap supplier next year then it'll probably work out the cheapest for you overall compared with a supplier with no referral code.

Buyer beware and all that, but I have no faults I can throw at So Energy, possibly the first ever supplier I can say that of. They have a neat billing and website arrangement and it just all seems to work. FWIW I have a smart gas meter, but still have to read off the meter and enter it once a month, but that's not a hassle as the number appears on the smart-meter-thingy in the house and I just click a link in a reminder email that appears once a month (just did it, hence I was thinking about it). I'm not aware of any gas suppliers yet exporting meter readings directly, but maybe there are. Anyway, in some ways better that I have to keep an eye on my consumption anyway.

All the best with it, if you have chosen/choose this supplier.
 

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Starting a new thread just to promote your own referral code is a bit sad don't you think?

This is a 'General Charging Discussion' page!
Somewhat sad, but the intention is that it's so people can use each other's referrals in turn, that is what happened in the other thread. Someone has to kick it off.

On the matter of charging, it is well related because the companies that offer EV-directed tariffs of interest are often totally hopeless for gas and this sends the consumer on a wild chase for an alternative stand alone gas supplier, and not all suppliers do gas-only.

In such cases, in the absence of a gas supplier with a decent review, folks often just to stick with what they got than 'tune' their suppliers for their EV needs.

If you can provide good value gas-only referrals then do it here! I will be more than happy to pick up someone else's referral for a different gas company if they (you) put in here something better!

It's meant to be the first post of a chain-referral, so we all spread the good word.

(I'm really struggling to understand why I am so vastly misunderstood these days. Just apply a bit of thinking and figure out what happened in the other referral threads!)
 

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Just had a look at the quote for dual fuel and gas only.
I'm with shell energy atm, dual fuel.
Unit prices.
Current. If renew with Shell
ELEC Full 17p/ unit. 22.5p/ unit
Eco7. 10.5p/ unit. 10.5p/ unit

GAS. 2.6p/ unit. 3.33p/unit


Quote from SO Energy. If I swap

Elec Normal 26.76p/ unit
Eco 7. 15.13p/ unit

GAS. 5.73p/ unit

Big jump in prices for eco7 tariff by comparison
Massive jump in gas rate. The has rate is the same from SO even on a gas only tariff.

Just for info
 

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I'm paying 2.8p/kWh for gas. Just for info.

As I say buyer beware, if it does not suit, if you are not in the 'right area' for the best rate or something, then no problem, move on, and if you can put up a referral for a better price then let's do it in one place!
 

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So Energy would also be a lot more expensive for gas supply in my area if I moved to them.

So Energy - 5.73p per kWh fixed one year - plus 26.60p per day.
My present supply - 2.98p per kWh fixed until next June - plus 22.05p per day.

But thanks for the offer.
 

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Starting a new thread just to promote your own referral code is a bit sad don't you think?

This is a 'General Charging Discussion' page!
Well, if the tariff stands on it's own two legs then why not go direct to reward each other instead of using the leeches that promote endless switching?
 

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A general heads up that gas is likely to get quite expensive for any new contracts, I have mentioned it elsewhere but UK gas futures prices have jumped from 20p a Therm to £1.20 in the last 15 months. A therm is roughly 30 kWh.

Natural Gas
Natural GasCommodity% changepence per thermp/thermChange
Natural Gas (UK Natural Gas Futures)-0.64%121.82-0.79

Copied from the BBC Business web site.

So the wholesale price is 4p a kWh... and has risen from £1.05 over the last couple of weeks.
 

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A general heads up that gas is likely to get quite expensive for any new contracts, I have mentioned it elsewhere but UK gas futures prices have jumped from 20p a Therm to £1.20 in the last 15 months. A therm is roughly 30 kWh.

Natural Gas
Natural GasCommodity% changepence per thermp/thermChange
Natural Gas (UK Natural Gas Futures)-0.64%121.82-0.79

Copied from the BBC Business web site.

So the wholesale price is 4p a kWh... and has risen from £1.05 over the last couple of weeks.
That's worrying, really. Is there a particular reason for it?
 

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Far east is buying gas for electricity generation to replace coal it seems. Certainly the reports are that the gas tankers from the middle east are heading that way. The UK is no longer independent for gas and Europe is buying it from Russia, hence Nord Stream 2 which is not yet finished. There just isn't enough to go round at the moment. The US frackers got caught last year when they were pumping oil and gas with nowhere to store it. A fracked well can't be stopped and restarted so quite a few lost their shirts.

If and when it gets windy again electricity in the UK can rely more on renewables. The Moray East 950MW wind farm is just 11 turbines off completion, it should come on stream in October/November, Triton Knoll 850 MW is set for completion early 2022 and Orsted are playing their cards close to their chests, but the massive Hornsea 2 has 2 jack-up vessels employed installing turbines and on their past record I would think some power will be coming on shore by the end of the year.

Oil and gas prices have tended to move in unison in the past but gas is outstripping oil. The UK no longer burns oil for electricity generation (it was more like bitumen anyway) whether there will be any alignment isn't clear though the price of oil has been rising too. Hurricane Ida will have an impact on oil prices depending on how long the gulf oil fields are closed for and whether there is lasting damage to platforms and refineries.
 
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