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I started noticing my Golf GTE was starting to shift quite rough in Electric only mode (up and downshift). When the ICE is running the shifts are silky smooth. When the gearbox is warm its a little bit more smooth but you can still feel the shifts in electric mode. Its at around 114.000 miles so the oil change for DSG has to be done soon. Do you think this will solve the rough shifting? or is something else wrong with the car. I got a quote from a DSG specialist here in the Netherlands. they dont just change the oil but also flush the gearbox with a special cleaning fluid and test the DSG for any other problems. around 366 pounds (including engine oil change).

Thanks for answering :)

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Some people swear by the DSG reset, which some claim makes the gearbox re-learn shift and bite points, not sure if it works on the GTE but maybe worth a go?


Otherwise, an oil change will certainly help generally!
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Thanks for the answer! I tried the DSG reset but it doesnt seem to change anything shifting related. I think im gonna bring it in for a gearbox flush, i hope nothing else i wrong with it.
 

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Thanks for the answer! I tried the DSG reset but it doesnt seem to change anything shifting related. I think im gonna bring it in for a gearbox flush, i hope nothing else i wrong with it.
Ah well, worth a go.

Has it had the two other gearbox oil changes at 40k/80k miles as well?
 

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Ah well, worth a go.

Has it had the two other gearbox oil changes at 40k/80k miles as well?
It had the 40k oil change but im not 100% sure about the other one..... i bought it with 100.000 miles for a good deal, it had a brand new battery pack in it and since i only drive like 30 miles a week i thought it would be a good deal.
 

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It had the 40k oil change but im not 100% sure about the other one..... i bought it with 100.000 miles for a good deal, it had a brand new battery pack in it and since i only drive like 30 miles a week i thought it would be a good deal.
It would certainly benefit from an oil change then, do that and see if anything changes.
 

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Okay thanks for the help! I just find it weird it only shifts rough in eletric mode??
Yes, that is a bit strange, but it’s over 2 years since I last drove my old GTE so can’t remember if there was a difference.

There would be torque characteristic differences between the various modes, is this a recent development?

Does it still change abruptly when you shift with the paddles early rather than letting the box decide? What about during gentle acceleration vs hard, any differences?

You will always feel the change, it won’t be totally smooth, but it shouldn’t be jarring.
 

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Yes, that is a bit strange, but it’s over 2 years since I last drove my old GTE so can’t remember if there was a difference.

There would be torque characteristic differences between the various modes, is this a recent development?

Does it still change abruptly when you shift with the paddles early rather than letting the box decide? What about during gentle acceleration vs hard, any differences?

You will always feel the change, it won’t be totally smooth, but it shouldn’t be jarring.
Okay, so in E-mode when i accelerate harder the shifting seems to be a bit more soft but you can still feel it. Its not like its really really hard but the shifts in e-mode are noticable. In GTE mode with kickdown everything is smooth. With the paddles its smooth aswell. I will bring it in for a dsg flush, they will also check the gearbox for any faults so for now i will just pray its not the mechatronic or something like that!
 

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Got my DSG oil change, and a DSG software update (old software starts driving mostly in second gear). Shifting is much smoother now. But i also confirm in e-mode and when cold, shifting is more noticable.
 

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both the ICE and electric motor are upstream of the gearbox so my guess is - as someone mentioned - the maximum power at-any-revs characteristic of the electric motor is the reason for a difference.

My GTE only has 1,100 miles on it and I can feel quite a difference between ICE and electric upshifts, especially when using above 75% power on electric - in a low gear uphill it's quite noticeable

Apologies for what might be silly question - are you sure you're not just noticing it more? That's happened with me
 

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no slight on you buying it used but there should be a law against having a plugin hybrids with so many miles on the clock.
There's no way it could get to that mileage at its age and have been used in anything like a manner that makes sense for a plug-in, the world is probably slightly worse rather than better for its existence
 

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no slight on you buying it used but there should be a law against having a plugin hybrids with so many miles on the clock.
There's no way it could get to that mileage at its age and have been used in anything like a manner that makes sense for a plug-in, the world is probably slightly worse rather than better for its existence
Not always.

When I sold my GTE at 4 years and 92k miles, I’d estimate from my usage that at least a third of that was on electric, I plugged it in every night and whilst at work during the day. I even destination charged it on the long journeys.

Plug in hybrids are great, as long as you plug them in.
 

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I remember there was a dealer software upgrade for the DSG on the GTE.
I had a early 2015 model and it did receive the update.
The DSG upgrade made the shifting a lot more slick.
When cold, the change between 1st and 2nd gear was a little “Jerky” but improved a lot after the software upgrade.
If the box shifts fine when the ICE is running, I find it hard to understand why it would be rough in electric mode.
Unless the box is commanded to shift differently when in electric mode.
In which case it could be software related.
 

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That's the kind of statement that would benefit from some supporting data.
Lets say 60 miles a day (you wont be getting world saving diesel worrying mpgs much above that) 365 days a year that would about 22,000 miles a year, but in reality few cars are used like that 7 days a week 52 weeks a year so annual mileage could expect to be far lower.

We all know that car spent most of its life doing 100s of motorway miles probably getting similar if not worse mpg than the original owner would have got with a GTD and if it wasnt charged (which many are not) similar if not less than a GTI
 

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Lets say 60 miles a day (you wont be getting world saving diesel worrying mpgs much above that) 365 days a year that would about 22,000 miles a year.

We all know that car spent most of its life doing 100s of motorway miles probably getting similar if not worse mpg than the original owner would have got with a GTI let alone a GTD
That’s pretty much what I was doing mileage wise, 31 miles to work, 30 miles back mon to fri, with weekend mileage on top, and every couple of weeks a 310 mile round trip with an overnight stop.

On the long trips, I was getting an easy 75 mpg ensuring I was fully charged beforehand.

Sure, if you never plugged it in, the numbers would be different.
 

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Not always.

When I sold my GTE at 4 years and 92k miles, I’d estimate from my usage that at least a third of that was on electric, I plugged it in every night and whilst at work during the day. I even destination charged it on the long journeys.

Plug in hybrids are great, as long as you plug them in.
Bought a GTE ex lease. Did 180k kilometers. In VCDS you can find the electric usage of your car, in my case 9k kilometers. So, about 5% of it's total usage.
 
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