[Crypto_Kid]

After lots of research am awaiting an i4 M50 - first time have ordered a car without at least seeing it in the 'flesh'. For me needed to be a car rather than a SUV/crossover style and personally find the Tesla Model 3 'meh' and yes have sat in one and driven it!

Just guess will be along wait now to 'hopeful' delivery in March next year.....

If it looked like a slightly updated 2020 4 series grand coupe, and was the same tech spec as the Tesla M3 and range, speed, for a few £k more, i would have got one. Will be interesting to see the depreciation on these at 2 years old, because a 2 year old model 3 depreciation is only about 10%-15%, even with higher than average miles.

Not a fan of the "shouting mouth" grill , especially on a BEV, not needed, but like all things guess we will all get used to it over time.

Wish you luck, i don't think BMW will exist in 2030.

 

[Polestar2]

Just looked as this was the EV i always wanted to arrive. Sadly, compared to a Tesla M3 , what a pile of overpriced poo. So disappointed. We ordered a Model 3 LR , with 19" sport wheels, with metallic paint, with white interior, with enhanced autopilot . £55590 , adding performance uprgade when it arrives, now £57000. 0-60 in 3.7 seconds.

To match it in an I4

i4 M50 (slower at 0-60 3.9 seconds)
Way less range , M3 LR 360 miles , i4 M50 318 miles

Had to add :

Paint @ £1100
Comfort pack @ £1200
Technology plus pack @ £1900
Sunroof @ £1050

Total price £69655.

And even then i could not find mentioned , so assume you don't get, Heated rear seats x 3 , Automatic remote boot open/close , Frunk , twin wireless phone charging side by side, probably other stuff too. forgot to also add, zero requirement to service an Tesla to maintain the 3year / 8 year warranties (service what? kick the tyres and plug in a PC) , I wonder what rip off service prices and mileage intervals BMW will rob you for to do nothing.

So over £12k more for slower, with less range, less tech and no supercharger network and the association with drug dealers (we all know what BMW stands for in the urban dictionary)

Sorry, Tesla all day every day for me, Faster, further, sleeker, better. Now if dealers will give a £12k discount, at least it's on par with buying price, for less.

Imaging buying a standard i40 and being beaten off the lights by someone with a bog standard Tesla SR+ for £40k. i would die inside.

An interesting point of view. What you’re missing in your comparison is quality. A TM3 is a washing machine for the road, it’s build quality and choice of materials isn’t fitting with a £40k - £60k car.

I’d happily sacrifice a slightly slower 0-60 time to sit in a quality made product.

 

[glenharrison8]

Who's getting £12k discounts on an M50? of all the dealers I've spoken to, it's 0 discounts and an 18 month waiting list?

I ask because I'm seriously considering one.

 

[Crypto_Kid]

Who's getting £12k discounts on an M50? of all the dealers I've spoken to, it's 0 discounts and an 18 month waiting list?

I ask because I'm seriously considering one.

😆 The sales figures wont lie, only people who really want a BMW will pay these overpriced prices. I doubt the i4 will be able to get into any top 10 sales lists in Europe or USA, it's only for people who really dislike Tesla.

 

[Chris McGolpin]

😆 The sales figures wont lie, only people who really want a BMW will pay these overpriced prices. I doubt the i4 will be able to get into any top 10 sales lists in Europe or USA, it's only for people who really dislike Tesla.

I have just test driven the latest Tesla and the i4 and the latter is a much nicer car to drive by some margin. All in with some options a tad more expensive but the drive is far better.

 

[Crypto_Kid]

I have just test driven the latest Tesla and the i4 and the latter is a much nicer car to drive by some margin. All in with some options a tad more expensive but the drive is far better.

So why isn't the i4 at the top of BEV UK sales charts?, the Tesla Model Y will be for March, and most months onward in UK Europe now Berlin is spitting out cars like bullets, that factory is the MG42 of Germany. I find every modern car within about 10% of each other ride wise, there are not really bad riding cars anymore, none ride like 1960's -1980's cars, and cars are just tools to me, happily bouight the model Y for £56k without even ever driving one, it's fine.

 

[Bill N]

All in with some options a tad more expensive but the drive is far better.

Isn’t it more like £10k more expensive, as arguably the Model 3 RWD LFP is closer to the i4 40 than the Model 3 LR is.

 

[Bill N]

I’d like to consider an i4, but it’s quite a lot more expensive than a Tesla, and uncertainty surrounding timing and coverage of UK Supercharger access for non-Teslas is a concern.

Scrabbling around for a charge at crappy chargers in a £50k car just isn’t appealing.

 

[kurokawa]

I am big BMW fan, but i4 even the eDrive 40 just dont feel very much a £50k car
BMW use to give big discount, even on M model (Remember seeing my local deal have a "instock" M4 with 8k discount)
Yet, I dont see BMW giving discount any time soon under this semiconductor shortage and gas price hike

 

[Charlie S]

Totally, I think the pricing of the i4 has been set in a "business as usual" way by BMW with the plan that it will be discounted, even if only to large buyers such as leasing companies (including their own Alphabet) but then with these shortage issues, why would they bother discounting! It's what makes it look out of kilter to the Model 3 pricing even more so.

I configured a Sport edrive40 (lowest end model available currently) as I would like and it is nearly £60k. So much more than the Model 3 but I can see why someone would choose the i4 over the Model 3 of course, it will be more "premium" and all that and it is nice to be able to configure the car more than just colours.

With regards public charging, I think the i4 charging port will be on the wrong side for supercharger usage. I wouldn't be put off by the rapid charging situation but then again I am an experienced EVer. The kind of buyers coming into an i4 may largely be new to EV and then the Model 3 is way more tempting again because of how easy it makes longer trips.

 

[Chris McGolpin]

So why isn't the i4 at the top of BEV UK sales charts?, the Tesla Model Y will be for March, and most months onward in UK Europe now Berlin is spitting out cars like bullets, that factory is the MG42 of Germany. I find every modern car within about 10% of each other ride wise, there are not really bad riding cars anymore, none ride like 1960's -1980's cars, and cars are just tools to me, happily bouight the model Y for £56k without even ever driving one, it's fine.

good luck.

 

[Bill N]

I wouldn't be put off by the rapid charging situation but then again I am an experienced EVer.

As am I, and I would - it’s got noticeably more tricky in recent years as network expansion simply hasn’t kept pace with EV sales.

It’ll get better, eventually, especially so if Tesla do a Netherlands here in the UK and quickly move to pilot and then on to fully open access, but I’m not confident of that, and I’m even less confident that other networks will be able to keep expanding at the required rate in the short-medium term.

 

[Charlie S]

As am I, and I would - it’s got noticeably more tricky in recent years as network expansion simply hasn’t kept pace with EV sales.

It’ll get better, eventually, especially so if Tesla do a Netherlands here in the UK and quickly move to pilot and then on to fully open access, but I’m not confident of that, and I’m even less confident that other networks will be able to keep expanding at the required rate in the short-medium term.

True it is busier but with more hubs now (and more opening) I find it pretty easy to plan a route with my i3 that doesn't worry me even if I have to wait a little, let alone a car with 50-100 miles more range.

I guess I should have made my original statement: I wouldn't be put off by the rapid charging situation but then again I am an experienced EVer that only uses rapid chargers a handful of times a year.

 

[Bill N]

that only uses rapid chargers a handful of times a year.

Ah yes - that certainly will make a difference to whether it’s perceived to be a significant consideration. 👍

 

[Crypto_Kid]

As am I, and I would - it’s got noticeably more tricky in recent years as network expansion simply hasn’t kept pace with EV sales.

It’ll get better, eventually, especially so if Tesla do a Netherlands here in the UK and quickly move to pilot and then on to fully open access, but I’m not confident of that, and I’m even less confident that other networks will be able to keep expanding at the required rate in the short-medium term.

I dont think they can do this in the UK, there are to many Tesla's selling because of both big private buyer and huge company car demand, the model 3 was the 2nd best selling car in the UK last year, of ALL cars. I Think Tesla know they dont really have much spare capacity in the UK network for "others" and we will see at least another 50k-60k Tesla's added to UK roads in 2022, all looking for Superchargers when away from home.

 

[Bill N]

Yeah - it’s kinda frustrating that Tesla threw it out there last Autumn without some more detail on anticipated timings and extent of the intended opening up (ok - Musk has always hinted at it being on the cards at some point, but still)…I imagine there must be many other people like myself now in much more of a quandary, as one of the key USPs of Tesla cars is in question, and other EVs may be worthy of much more serious consideration - but with no certainty at all either way.

 

[Chris McGolpin]

I dont think they can do this in the UK, there are to many Tesla's selling because of both big private buyer and huge company car demand, the model 3 was the 2nd best selling car in the UK last year, of ALL cars. I Think Tesla know they dont really have much spare capacity in the UK network for "others" and we will see at least another 50k-60k Tesla's added to UK roads in 2022, all looking for Superchargers when away from home.

Crypto_Kid are you sure you are not Mr Musk in disguise?🤠

 

[Crypto_Kid]

Crypto_Kid are you sure you are not Mr Musk in disguise?🤠

No , we only have being very efficient with our tax avoidance schemes in common.

 

[ricchester]

i4 e drive 40 M Sport on order here, moving into an EV from a B9 Audi S4. Looking forward to eventual delivery (probably 2023 by the sounds of it)

 

[glenharrison8]

i4 e drive 40 M Sport on order here, moving into an EV from a B9 Audi S4. Looking forward to eventual delivery (probably 2023 by the sounds of it)

Me too. I placed an order for a Tanzanite M50 two weeks ago I was all set for ordering a Tesla model 3 until I test drove both in the same weekend.

also, all the talk about dealers not giving discounts is crap. I got £2,500 knocked off, which isn't a lot, but better than nothing.