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just a quick poll, did the whole rapidgate thing get sorted for all years of the 40; or is it possible to buy one that you can't get sorted ?
Given the problem is a fundamental lack of cooling for cells, software was never ever going to fix it. Did someone suggest they were going to fix it, I mean, other than by slowing down the charge rate?just a quick poll, did the whole rapidgate thing get sorted for all years of the 40; or is it possible to buy one that you can't get sorted ?
They changed the curve so that the battery can get hotter before it starts to slow down. They only seem to offer it in "cold" countries like the UK so I suppose they calculated that the damage done isn't enough to cause warranty issues here. Occasionally pushing it is probably fine but if you rapid charge very day, or twice a day you might have a problem.Given the problem is a fundamental lack of cooling for cells, software was never ever going to fix it. Did someone suggest they were going to fix it, I mean, other than by slowing down the charge rate?
Exactly. All they have done is accept more battery degradation than the initial safety first approach took. I suspect that if they have drivers who regularly do multiple rapids in the day they may have some battery claims in the future. But, how many EV owners will do that for long enough? Probably few as those people traditionally change their cars regularly.Given the problem is a fundamental lack of cooling for cells, software was never ever going to fix it. Did someone suggest they were going to fix it, I mean, other than by slowing down the charge rate?
Very interesting, I remember reading "somewhere" that the critical temperature for the Nissan battery technology was 40 degrees which you regularly spiked above.Here is the temperature curve too. View attachment 130370
These are maximum temperatures from LeafSpy. Should we use average ones?Very interesting, I remember reading "somewhere" that the critical temperature for the Nissan battery technology was 40 degrees which you regularly spiked above.
Wow, thanks. Did you notice any limited power when driving the car? Like when you put your foot down it doesn't accelerate as hard to stop the battery overheating?In Finland we haven't heavy lockdowns, so I made a 810 km test run on Tuesday, outside temperature 3-8 degrees centigrade, average driving speed 75 km/h (mainly 80 km/h roads), first two legs 160 km, then the next 100 - 150 km, charging time approx. 40 minutes each.
I think they realized that the reality is few people do more than one rapid charge a day, ever. For most people it's just not an issue they will encounter so not worth putting any effort in to fixing it.NISSAN have sold a lot of LEAF's in the last 2 years and RAPIDGATE is hardly mentioned now.