Thanks for all the advice.It does nake a difference.
Being driven at 50 to 60 most EV ranges will be a fair bit more than if they were coaxed into hitting 70.
Hills. I know a chap who has a fantastic commute where he's on a twisty and hilly part of Scotland he's getting quite a lot of regen so effectively extending his range.
Here's what you should do in my opinion.
1) edit your post where you wrote meat instead of meet, just to save the embarrassing consequences of someone finding that in the future. I'll delete this bit too so no evidence.
1) using Google maps or similar plot out your journey. Adjust things as needed to see the worst possible journey if there was a diversion of some sort. Write down the distance and add half as much again. That would be the range you would really be comfortable with.
Let's say longest diverted journey to work would be 70 miles, 105 miles is therefore a comfortable range to have to get you there safely but you would need to then charge all day to get back up to 100% (using a granny charger)
2) look at EVs that can do the range. Not wltp figures but real world and after a number of years degradation of the batteries and in winter conditions. You need to also consider the speed at which they can be charged.
3) look at your budget. Think of the kids. Consider the level of comfort you need and how safely you want to arrive home after you and the kids have had a long day at the school.
I'm assuming it's 5 days a week with both kids so look at the possibilities of making sure there is no difference in having a safe range on the Friday when traffic might be at its worse.
4) look at some of the suggestions made.
Will an EV that did just over 100 miles new be any good to you as a 3 or 4 year old car, I would think not. Look at both new and secondhand prices and ask as many questions as you need to.
My suggestion of the Astra hybrid which is a new car was based on what I would buy if in your position. Totally EV solutions might be a Corsa, secondhand. Even in winter you'd have a 160 mile range but it might be considered too small.
Sorry if you found any responses rude.
I read everything and found nothing rude or condescending, just different ways of pointing things out.
The worst you could do is buy something that ended up not being really useable which is a hard and expensive lesson learned.
Hopefully you're getting some valuable points of view from every respondent and making good use of the opinions but as someone just mentioned you may have to invest more than you at first thought.
Is the written off Astra going to provide enough money for a decent deposit to make pcp an option?
Could leasing be an option?
How about moving property?
Best of luck with finding the best solution.
Scotland? You are in luck, interest-free loan from gov to help you fund your EV purchaseI live in Scotland
With the possibility of using the ICE for the worst days, compare the cost of Ioniq 28 Vs 38 (or other 30&40 kWh options if you don't like the Ioniq) to decide if the cheaper car is worth having. Assume 2-3 months a year of an extra £200 in energy price to cover the commute* if you have to use the ICE.Thanks for all the advice.
I have found plenty to think about. My main takeaway points just now are that i need to raise my budget and treat the cars in a more communal way than we do just now.
A more realistic approach may be to use the EV in the summer/better month and then take the ICE in the winter/worse months. Hopefully that can make some difference.
With the mileage he's doing something like Go will likely easily work out beneficial.A new Zoe or Leaf could do the job but between the Leaf looks and Chademo, and the zero ncap from Renault skimping on airbags and safety tech I couldn't suggest them to anyone, especially with the Kona/Niro EV/MGZS/Fiat 500/ID.3 being all better options at the price point.
The Octopus Go only works in specific situations, if I personally had my house using the peak having a wife and two kids it would cost an absolute bomb. So whilst you save on EV you lose out on house running costs.
Real world, based on data from users (so “crowd-sourced” - though depending on model the size of the crowd might be quite small).Never played with that, does it use real world figures or base its calculations on manufacturers BS?
I assume you're pointing this at me, so please have the decency to show me where my answers have been either aggresive or rude, as oposed to just "to the point" and actually helpfull in trying to cut through the BS that seems to be wide-spread out in the real world.The OP just came here to look for advice about the pros/cons of buying an EV and if it would work for his circumstances.
A lot of the stuff that's been argued about hasn't been instigated by him, in fact he's been openly thankful and repeatedly offers more information to help people to help him.
He doesn't come across as vague or not willing to be open to ideas and is obviously able to work things out for himself.
For some reason he's been met with a certain amount of aggression, which has been uncalled for imo.
As a matter of fact, yes it was.I assume you're pointing this at me, so please have the decency to show me where my answers have been either aggresive or rude, as oposed to just "to the point" and actually helpfull in trying to cut through the BS that seems to be wide-spread out in the real world.
Post #97 you say you meant to be rude.I assume you're pointing this at me, so please have the decency to show me where my answers have been either aggresive or rude, as oposed to just "to the point" and actually helpfull in trying to cut through the BS that seems to be wide-spread out in the real world.
I was going to post about the EST loan but thought I would quickly check no one else had already. Worth having a look into it as could be a good way to finance. There has been a small amount of discussion about it on the forum including this thread:
I don't want to, as @Peirpoint has suggested, derail the topic - but I'm a bit aggrieved that you seem to have completely misread me, and then started saying stuff about me that actually isn't true. My opening contribution was made on the assumption that as a teacher, the OP would be paid relatively well, and would also have been able to research the very basics of the EV landscape, and thus I was asking what actually was the point of the discussion, not to dismiss it, but to literally try to find out what was the core issue that he has in trying to answer his question - a question that in fact to my mind actually needed explaining more. And your comment about my next point was a classic example of taking words out of a sentence rather than keeping them in context - I didn't say he was acting child like, I was saying that as an adult teacher, he should find some straight forward talking both acceptable, and preferable, in a discussion about wether he could use an EV or not. Every post I've written was trying to say that he needed to concentrate on wether he can afford an EV, not wether he would like one - and I then even pointed out the autotrader cars that he should be looking at at the budget end of the market, but that would do his commute.Your opening "contribution" was to assume as the OP was a teacher and therefore had a lot of money to spend and why were we having the conversation in the first place.
Then you went on in your next post to point out he was a teacher, not a child. (when he had done absolutely nothing that pointed to him acting childishly).
You appear to have taken an instant dislike to him.