[Ruud van Driver]

Tomorrow I'm going to look at and possibly buy a 2013 Kangoo ZE that has only done 8,000 miles. I gave the registration number to my local Renault garage and they told me it has a 75% state of health, which they consider to be "really good" for a 7-year-old Kangoo. Does that sound right? I understand that the rental batteries get replaced at 60%, so Renault consider antything above 60% to be serviceable. Not sure whether to buy this van or not. Driving it home 100 miles may be tricky, but I only drive 10-20 miles per day so it'll probably meet my work needs once I've got it home. Any thoughts?

 

[cah197]

Probably needs a BMS update.

 

[osbrook]

Don't forget the battery Rental. If still leased then Renault will bring the pack back up to 75% minimum

 

[dk6780]

Probably needs a BMS update.

You mean that the SoH figure will increase but the range will stay the same?

 

[proddick]

Don't forget the battery Rental. If still leased then Renault will bring the pack back up to 75% minimum

No, as above 22kWh Kangoo has a 60% guarantee but rental is cheap. Below courtesy of Go Green

 

[Ruud van Driver]

I've been trying to get info from the horse's mouth but https://www.renault.co.uk/finance/battery-hire.html doesn't work. According to gogreenautos.co.uk "From October 2017, battery state of health guarantee on the 22kWh Kangoo ZE vans is 60%. All other models remain at 75%."

 

[proddick]

Driving it home 100 miles may be difficult

Wimp Not difficult, just boring and worse at present with little open. We picked up B Class from York and had to drive home to Newbury and at 11kW max it didn't charge much quicker.

I am confident lease details above are correct, but call RCI if you want to be 100% sure.

 

[Ruud van Driver]

According to this EV battery degradation tool a 2014 Kangoo still has on average 95% SOH after 6 years. The 2013 van I'm looking at has 75% which is much worse than average degradation. Think I'll keep looking.

 

[Tandy0]

Not sure where they get those figures from. Fluence has a similar battery, and my 2013 is about 72% now. BTW, don't think Renault actually put new batteries in when they get low. They just offer to buy the vehicle back from you.

 

[E7EV]

Have a look at the GoGreen Autos website as mentioned by @proddick It’s full of information on Renault vans and they have quite a few for sale. They do informative videos as well. Could be worth giving them a call.

 

[cah197]

According to this EV battery degradation tool a 2014 Kangoo still has on average 95% SOH after 6 years. The 2013 van I'm looking at has 75% which is much worse than average degradation. Think I'll keep looking.
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You might be missing a trick here. The dealer says it has 70% SOH.

If you don't but it do let me have the link to the advert.

 

[dk6780]

The 2013 van I'm looking at has 75% which is much worse than average degradation. Think I'll keep looking.

Probably needs a BMS update.

I was sarcastic to @cah197 above but he has point - the figure may be artificially lower than others on the market due to not having the update. My sarcasm was around whether the figure after the update is true or just a function of Renault wanting to avoid meeting the guarantee - as if.

 

[Garry TheBiz]

To answer your original question, expect a range of around 50 to 60 miles this time of year, lower in winter.
Also remember the van only charges at just over 3kW, so you would need a length stop of around 6 hours or more depending how low you're prepared to let the battery get. When you factor in an overnight stay, it might be worth looking at getting it transported to you instead.

 

[JohnMars]

What are Renault like for honouring their battery warranty? Nissan’s don’t seem too bad at taking action, is it the same with a Zoe?

 

[dk6780]

What are Renault like for honouring their battery warranty? Nissan’s don’t seem too bad at taking action, is it the same with a Zoe?

There are less claims made, so less are honoured. That may be due to different battery chemistry or the change to the BMS settings.

To be fair I suspect that it is just that the batteries are stronger and they heat up less due to a lighter car and less Rapid charges.

 

[Tandy0]

What are Renault like for honouring their battery warranty? Nissan’s don’t seem too bad at taking action, is it the same with a Zoe?

How much clearer can I be?

BTW, don't think Renault actually put new batteries in when they get low. They just offer to buy the vehicle back from you.

 

[cah197]

How much clearer can I be?

You think?

Plenty of examples of Renault swapping batteries under warranty.

 

[Tandy0]

You think?

Plenty of examples of Renault swapping batteries under warranty.

Anyone here, or on the continent?

 

[cah197]

Anyone here, or on the continent?

Yes and yes.

DSG have had one done I believe.

 

[Tandy0]

Yes and yes.

DSG have had one done I believe.

Who is DSG? Is he a SpeakEV member?