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Another press release I'm a bit late to the party on, sure will be of interest for one reason or another to many on here. :)

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  • Six Hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles arrive for first UK customers
  • Arrival follows £11m government and industry funding to support hydrogen transport
  • ix35 Fuel Cell is world’s first series-production Fuel Cell car
  • Demonstrates Hyundai’s commitment to sustainable fuel technologies
The first ix35 Fuel Cell customer vehicles have arrived in the UK, continuing Hyundai’s global roll-out of the world’s first series-production hydrogen-fuelled car.

Hyundai is the first car manufacturer to supply these zero-emission vehicles to paying customers in the UK, paving the way for growth of the clean technology, having led its research and development since 1998.

The arrival of ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles comes just days after Business Minister Matthew Hancock announced £11 million of UK government and industry funding to support hydrogen transport. This continued investment in the sector through 2015 will expand the nationwide hydrogen refuelling station network, boosting consumer confidence and increasing uptake of fuel cell vehicles.

Tony Whitehorn, President and CEO, Hyundai Motor UK, commented: “Making the first UK customer deliveries of hydrogen-powered cars is a huge landmark for the industry. Hyundai is the first company in the world to start series-production of a fuel cell vehicle and is committed to rolling-out this technology in line with government plans to grow the refuelling infrastructure.”

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Among the first to enjoy operating the pioneering vehicles on UK roads are organisations including Air Products, ITM Power, Johnson Matthey and Transport for London.

The Deputy Mayor of London for business and enterprise, Kit Malthouse, said: “I firmly believe that hydrogen fuel cell technology will eventually replace the internal combustion engine but we have to show the public the vehicles, let them kick the tyres and demonstrate that it is more than just a science fiction story, it works and can be used in a very similar manner to the cars they are used to. That is why these new vehicles are so important, it is about putting the technology on the street and taking the first steps towards a viable hydrogen future both in London and nationwide.”

Promoting the adoption of fuel cell vehicles in the UK, Hyundai is part of a number of collaborative projects. These include London’s Hydrogen Network Expansion (LHNE), a project backed by Innovate, and Hydrogen For Innovative Vehicles (HyFIVE). Hyundai is also a supplier to HyTEC, which alongside HyFIVE is funded by the Fuel Cells and Hydrogen Joint Undertaking (FCH JU). In addition, Hyundai Motor UK is also a participant in the UKH2 Mobility project that has played a key part in advising government.

With no harmful tailpipe emissions, ix35 Fuel Cell can travel more than 350 miles in real-world driving conditions before refuelling, which is a quick and easy process similar to refuelling a petrol or diesel vehicle.

UK consumers can order ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles today by contacting Hyundai UK directly. Coordinating deliveries worldwide, Hyundai will fulfil new customer deliveries in early 2015.
 

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I read somewhere that the government have a target of 15 hydrogen capable filling stations by Q4 of 2015.

Just imagine that BEV's had to share 15 rapid chargers, and that nobody could have a home charger...

Fair comparison?
Would be quite poor experience if you had to drive 30 miles to a refuel point and then back home again.
 

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"UK consumers can order ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles today by contacting Hyundai UK directly. Coordinating deliveries worldwide, Hyundai will fulfil new customer deliveries in early 2015."

And the price of one of these is...?
 

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"UK consumers can order ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles today by contacting Hyundai UK directly. Coordinating deliveries worldwide, Hyundai will fulfil new customer deliveries in early 2015."

And the price of one of these is...?
If you have to ask... :D

Huge lack of details and transparency at present, possibly differs on the customer type and all sorts of caveats and circumstances.
 

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"UK consumers can order ix35 Fuel Cell vehicles today by contacting Hyundai UK directly. Coordinating deliveries worldwide, Hyundai will fulfil new customer deliveries in early 2015."

And the price of one of these is...?
Exactly.

How much are these cars, and how much does the fuel cost? Is it billed per litre like petrol? And will that fuel be taxed in the same way as petrol?

And as great as 350 miles/ tank sounds, I wonder what the actual miles/kWh rating is, if the separation process energy consumption is included?
 

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the figure that caught my eye from the Prius thread was the MPGe - 80 at best.

Ok, granted it's a 'clean' burning fuel, but still... that's pretty disappointing.
 

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I thought the fuel cell wasn't a reciprocating piston design, but a charge potential inducer via some sort of entropic reaction? Then the charge is sent to an electric traction motor?

Even so, it's still a complete waste of energy.
 

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I've no idea, but assumed there was still an engine...
I win :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell

A fuel cell is a device that converts the chemical energy from a fuel into electricity through a chemical reaction with oxygen or another oxidizing agent.[1]

Hydrogen produced from the steam methane reforming of natural gas is the most common fuel, but for greater efficiency hydrocarbonscan be used directly such as natural gas and alcohols like methanol. Fuel cells are different from batteries in that they require a continuous source of fuel and oxygen/air to sustain the chemical reaction whereas in a battery the chemicals present in the battery react with each other to generate an electromotive force (emf). Fuel cells can produce electricity continuously for as long as these inputs are supplied.
BOOM! I actually looked like I knew what I was on about! TOP CASHBACK.
 

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I thought the fuel cell wasn't a reciprocating piston design, but a charge potential inducer via some sort of entropic reaction? Then the charge is sent to an electric traction motor?

Even so, it's still a complete waste of energy.
A fuel cell converts the fuel (which is not necessarily Hydrogen) into electricity. The driveline is electric.
 

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I'll assume water is bunged into a catalytic cracker, and the molecules are split into the component parts of hydrogen and oxygen (I haven't looked up how it's done, but for my point it's actually irrelevant anyway).
You should look it up - they don't make H2 this way, or by electrolysis; it is natural gas that has the carbon removed in an exceedingly energy intensive process involving high-temperature steam. This process releases loads of CO2 to the air. You would be vastly better off just running a conventional ICE from the natural gas.
 

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10000 psi tanks? That is just scary. (to put it in perspective, that's 2/3 the pressure at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, which we can only just send vessels into).
 

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10000 psi tanks? That is just scary. (to put it in perspective, that's 2/3 the pressure at the bottom of the Marianas Trench, which we can only just send vessels into).
Exactly. I wonder if the insurers are fully aware of this.

I'd also be curious what the platinum infested fuel cell would be worth on the illegal scrap metal market. Once word of that gets out, theft of these will make theft of catalytic converters from Mercedes Sprinter vans seem insignificiant.
 

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Exactly. I wonder if the insurers are fully aware of this.

I'd also be curious what the platinum infested fuel cell would be worth on the illegal scrap metal market. Once word of that gets out, theft of these will make theft of catalytic converters from Mercedes Sprinter vans seem insignificiant.
Is this a common drawback limited to Sprinter Vans,or doesn't every ICE "Cat" contain some?
 
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