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Hi guys,

I just checked the Volkswagen website: ID.3 1ST Edition | Electric Cars | Volkswagen UK

It looks like the price for the ID.3 1st Edition is revealed: £38 880 before grant and £35 880 after.

Edit: if you add colour it becomes £36500 after the grant....
 

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Plus £180 for a granny cable. APR on the finance offers is 6.2%
Where did you get the 6.2%? I checked their lease...something and got "coming soon".
 

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That's cheaper purchase price than I was expecting, but the PCP monthly payments are way too high for me.
Yeah, the PCP numbers are crazy. My last hope is for the lease numbers to be better, but it is not online yet.
 

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Why are the monthly costs not affected by the choice of mileage? :unsure:
 

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Why are the monthly costs not affected by the choice of mileage? :unsure:
I noticed that one too 🤷‍♂️
I'm assuming that the lease will be VW preferred option as it seems to offer lots of addons: maintenance, insurance, etc.
 

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Price looks like expected but no big advantage for 1st Edition as far as can see. £36500 with metallic paint and most of the tech is probably about right, if the PIGG was still £5K then would be spot on.
 

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You do have to start asking yourself if it really is a good deal, I know the deal I got on my e-Golf was good at 0% with a £750 deposit contribution, but I'm paying £26,600 (including final payment over 4 years ) including three years servicing and GAP insurance (which was a little overpriced but I threw the dealer a bone) thats for an e-Golf with 1K of options on it as well, and they didn't charge you for a granny cable. Obviously I bought at the bottom end of the new e-Golf market and this is the top end of the id.3 market. Given Volkswagen are producing these at scale if you have no rush to buy one, I would wait it out a year till they have a better balance of supply/demand and start pulling finance levers in your favour.

Ultimately Is it worth nearly 10K more for an extra 100 miles of range and a poorer fit and finish than a MK7.5 Golf (the same question could be applied to MK8 Golfs as well) for me the answer would be a resounding no, especially given the current situation where long distance driving is not something on the medium term horizon for many I would expect.
 

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Ultimately Is it worth nearly 10K more for an extra 100 miles of range and a poorer fit and finish than a MK7.5 Golf
That's a bit harsh a summary. The ID3 is much larger internally than a MK7.5 Golf with greater performance and safety with more features (assuming that they are delivered).
 

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When do we get the first ‘that’s almost M3 money’ comment?

It’s around the figure we were expecting, so no arguments from me.

I’m still tempted, the extra range would be useful for me, albeit I’d be lugging it around most of the time without needing it.

I haven’t seen an ID.3 in the flesh, so I’ll reserve judgement on the fit and s finish comments, but VW don’t usually push out rubbish on production cars.
 

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When do we get the first ‘that’s almost M3 money’ comment?
Go on then, I'll make it and you can point out that it's in a different segment and from a European manufacturer. It does demonstrate how well Tesla have done to become such a cost-effective manufacturer in such a short time. VW really need to drive the price down and maintain a high level of quality to justify their position, particularly once the German Gigafactory comes on line.
 

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@shikoku14 In the UK, I don't have the option to wait a year, as the UK has a big deadline of unknown B***** coming up. If it wasn't for the Corona, the 1st Ed would be my choice (outside of the Koreans).
@dk6780 You seem to be confused about the segments. Tesla is in the "high cost, low quality" one. VW are well positioned in the "high quality, low cost". All VW has to do is deliver on their history/fame and they have a guaranteed market winner.
 

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When do we get the first ‘that’s almost M3 money’ comment?
You just made it. ;)

At 6.2% APR it is M3 money :D

ID.3 with white paint and 3-pin cable with £6k down gives £458.96 per month, M3 with same £6k down gives £486 per month, both over 48 months, so M3 is £28,842, ID.3 is £27,571 in total. So you have a difference of £1,300 over 4 years or £27 per month.
 

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Well spotted - that's a bit naughty as that may not be the solution that the purchaser is looking for.
There is another button to select deposit you have then that adjusts monthly payments.
Depending on individual circumstances a PCP from elsewhere could be cheaper as 6.2% not very good incentive.
 

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The ID 3 price is pretty much what we all expected, right? Maybe apart from the payday loan APR% 😃

Go on then, I'll make it and you can point out that it's in a different segment and from a European manufacturer. It does demonstrate how well Tesla have done to become such a cost-effective manufacturer in such a short time. VW really need to drive the price down and maintain a high level of quality to justify their position, particularly once the German Gigafactory comes on line.
Especially as the Tesla includes a 10% EU import tax..
 

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particularly once the German Gigafactory comes on line
Especially as the Tesla includes a 10% EU import tax.
as the UK has a big deadline of unknown B***** coming up
At which point the 10% difference will have gone and might even be in favour of the US built cars.
@dk6780 You seem to be confused about the segments. Tesla is in the "high cost, low quality" one. VW are well positioned in the "high quality, low cost". All VW has to do is deliver on their history/fame and they have a guaranteed market winner.
Pity that they have failed to do that a lot recently. Let's hope that they do a better job with the ID3 - their future rides on it. :devilish:

The majority of cars in the UK are bought via companies - I wonder how the User/Chooser part of the market compares the all important badges :rolleyes: ?
 
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