look at the criteria for this. I was offered it when I renewed a short time ago but wasn't suitable for me as you need a smart charger.
Intelligent Octopus
Has anyone (else) been invited to join Intelligent Octopus ? It seems to be invitation-only at the mo.
I'm currently on Go Faster 5, 20:30-01:30, at 5.5p per kWh. This new offer is 6 hours at 5p, so longer and cheaper than Go Faster 5. But it's app-controlled, you have to tell Octopus, via the app, every time you charge, when you need it charged by. That way they can move different demands around to meet available supplies.
I'm not sure how this would work...do they have tech that somehow allows them to enable and disable car charging even though they only control the meter, not the Podpoint ? If they can do this, do they only apply the 5.5p/kWh to actual car charging and not to any other electricity supply purpose during the cheap period (I like to use the tumble dryer in the cheap period for what I thought was a two-thirds discount).
Does anyone think this new offer is good value, or more like too much hassle ?
I'm currently on Go Faster 5, 20:30-01:30, at 5.5p per kWh. This new offer is 6 hours at 5p, so longer and cheaper than Go Faster 5. But it's app-controlled, you have to tell Octopus, via the app, every time you charge, when you need it charged by. That way they can move different demands around to meet available supplies.
I'm not sure how this would work...do they have tech that somehow allows them to enable and disable car charging even though they only control the meter, not the Podpoint ? If they can do this, do they only apply the 5.5p/kWh to actual car charging and not to any other electricity supply purpose during the cheap period (I like to use the tumble dryer in the cheap period for what I thought was a two-thirds discount).
Does anyone think this new offer is good value, or more like too much hassle ?
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Sounds like adding some hassle. 4 hours per day at 5p per kWh is plenty for us, running 2 ID3s.
I got the invite, but don't have a smart charger so couldn't consider it any further.
As I understand it all the electricity you use during the 6 hours is 5p/kWh, but you have to use their app to tell them how much EV charge you need and they will control the smart charger to facilitate this and balance the demand/supply.
Day rates were stinging too, so I'd have had to look carefully at it.
As I understand it all the electricity you use during the 6 hours is 5p/kWh, but you have to use their app to tell them how much EV charge you need and they will control the smart charger to facilitate this and balance the demand/supply.
Day rates were stinging too, so I'd have had to look carefully at it.
Not just any smart charger either, the criteria are very limited at the moment:
To get early access to Intelligent Octopus, you need:
The first thing I checked when I got the email was the regular daytime rate. For me it's 24.14p/kWh, which is almost double what I'm paying now on Go Faster (13.8p). Not sure how long that will last though, I'm waiting for the email telling me the rate is increasing...
If it works how the website blurb says it's supposed to, I don't see any reason it would be more complicated than any other Go tariff, unless you are likely to need to use your car at very short notice in the middle of the night, but that's a risk anyway with timed charging.
The way I understand it's supposed to work is that if the grid is less busy outside the "regular" 23:30-05:30 time slot, they will turn on the charging earlier to balance the grid outside those hours. If not, you get the regular slot as normal.
To get early access to Intelligent Octopus, you need:
- 🤓A smart meter we can connect to
- 🔌A compatible electric vehicle or charger (right now, any Tesla or Wallbox OCPP-enabled charger)
- 📱An iOS smartphone to manage charging via our app
The first thing I checked when I got the email was the regular daytime rate. For me it's 24.14p/kWh, which is almost double what I'm paying now on Go Faster (13.8p). Not sure how long that will last though, I'm waiting for the email telling me the rate is increasing...
If it works how the website blurb says it's supposed to, I don't see any reason it would be more complicated than any other Go tariff, unless you are likely to need to use your car at very short notice in the middle of the night, but that's a risk anyway with timed charging.
The way I understand it's supposed to work is that if the grid is less busy outside the "regular" 23:30-05:30 time slot, they will turn on the charging earlier to balance the grid outside those hours. If not, you get the regular slot as normal.
On Octopus Go with one EV and a Heat Pump soon to be two EVs. We have a Smart Charger/Ohme cable. Why pay 5.5p per kWh when you can pay 5p? Go works fine. One EV charges twice a week so I suspect the other will too, we just need to alternate charging days. What is the benefit of Intelligent Octopus over normal Go?
It's an extra hour at 5.5p (6 vs 5 hours).What is the benefit of Intelligent Octopus over normal Go?
Ah ha....have never needed more than 2.5 hours with one EV as normally you are going from circa 30% to circa 75% or thereabouts.It's an extra hour at 5.5p (6 vs 5 hours).
Good to see someone else read the Web page, but I thought it was 5p not 5.5pNot just any smart charger either, the criteria are very limited at the moment:
To get early access to Intelligent Octopus, you need:
(so only 2 charger makes & iPhone, no Android)
A smart meter we can connect to
A compatible electric vehicle or charger (right now, any Tesla or Wallbox OCPP-enabled charger)
An iOS smartphone to manage charging via our app
The first thing I checked when I got the email was the regular daytime rate. For me it's 24.14p/kWh, which is almost double what I'm paying now on Go Faster (13.8p). Not sure how long that will last though, I'm waiting for the email telling me the rate is increasing...
If it works how the website blurb says it's supposed to, I don't see any reason it would be more complicated than any other Go tariff, unless you are likely to need to use your car at very short notice in the middle of the night, but that's a risk anyway with timed charging.
The way I understand it's supposed to work is that if the grid is less busy outside the "regular" 23:30-05:30 time slot, they will turn on the charging earlier to balance the grid outside those hours. If not, you get the regular slot as normal.
A smart meter we can connect to
A compatible electric vehicle or charger (right now, any Tesla or Wallbox OCPP-enabled charger)
An iOS smartphone to manage charging via our appThe daytime rate was the same as I could see Go is if I signed so I don't think it's expensive for peak rate.
I applied just to see if it gave any more details. They wanted to know about the cars and the chargers we have but as I don't have a charger they can control they have noted that I'm interested but I can't join.
Ah ha....I only have an android phone and Octopus EV chargepoint and no Tesla so I am no worthy 
That is our charging situation too- 2 ID3s with on or the other charging within the GO window 3 or 4 days of the week.On Octopus Go with one EV and a Heat Pump soon to be two EVs. We have a Smart Charger/Ohme cable. Why pay 5.5p per kWh when you can pay 5p? Go works fine. One EV charges twice a week so I suspect the other will too, we just need to alternate charging days. What is the benefit of Intelligent Octopus over normal Go?
Depends on the EV capacity. Our 58kWh ID3s consistently take 4 hours to add 42% charge.Ah ha....have never needed more than 2.5 hours with one EV as normally you are going from circa 30% to circa 75% or thereabouts.
45% added in 2.5 hours? Maybe on something with a 35-40kWh capacity.
Interesting the different charging times
On our zappi with 7.2kw, the four hours have taken me once from 20 to 76%, but another time I made it from 20% to 80%. I guess it depends if the 20% is on the border of 21% or 19% 😀
If I plan to drive more then 100 miles for that day, I prefer to charge to 90%, which means to utilise the 4 hours I need to be more then 30% before charging.
Even driving to North Wales from London and being on holiday driving around up to Liverpool, I have never charged to 100%. I know the ID3 100% is not really 100%, but I prefer to avoid if I can.
Rgds
On our zappi with 7.2kw, the four hours have taken me once from 20 to 76%, but another time I made it from 20% to 80%. I guess it depends if the 20% is on the border of 21% or 19% 😀
If I plan to drive more then 100 miles for that day, I prefer to charge to 90%, which means to utilise the 4 hours I need to be more then 30% before charging.
Even driving to North Wales from London and being on holiday driving around up to Liverpool, I have never charged to 100%. I know the ID3 100% is not really 100%, but I prefer to avoid if I can.
Rgds
Have a charger they can control, but as VW haven't released the API, they can't make the system work with ID.3 (or 4) yet, so it's all a moot point.
That's straight out of the application process - I tried.
That's straight out of the application process - I tried.
How are you getting 56% of 58kWh usable capacity (32.5kWh delivered) over 4 hours when you're only supplying 28.8kWh (4 x 7.2kWh) in a process that's not 100% efficient?Interesting the different charging times
On our zappi with 7.2kw, the four hours have taken me once from 20 to 76%, but another time I made it from 20% to 80%. I guess it depends if the 20% is on the border of 21% or 19% 😀
If I plan to drive more then 100 miles for that day, I prefer to charge to 90%, which means to utilise the 4 hours I need to be more then 30% before charging.
Even driving to North Wales from London and being on holiday driving around up to Liverpool, I have never charged to 100%. I know the ID3 100% is not really 100%, but I prefer to avoid if I can.
Rgds
I only get about 6.5kWh per hour delivered to my car from the Ohme, and even less than that when I used a Tesco Podpoint once.
I find the kW varies with my Zappi 1 so I don't even get the full 28kWh, don't know if it's the car or the charger but it will drop down to 6-6.5kW at times and I seem to get 25-26kWh.
It's rarely a problem but once or twice I've gone out to the car expecting it to be fully charged and it's not quite full.
It's rarely a problem but once or twice I've gone out to the car expecting it to be fully charged and it's not quite full.
I had the invite but don't have a Tesla or a Wallbox OCPP-enabled charger so of no use. Anyway, I'm fortunate enough to have fixed into Go Faster back in April for 20:30-01:30 at 5.5p and 14.1p/kWh with 25p/day standing charge.Has anyone (else) been invited to join Intelligent Octopus ? It seems to be invitation-only at the mo.
I'm currently on Go Faster 5, 20:30-01:30, at 5.5p per kWh. This new offer is 6 hours at 5p, so longer and cheaper than Go Faster 5. But it's app-controlled, you have to tell Octopus, via the app, every time you charge, when you need it charged by. That way they can move different demands around to meet available supplies.
I'm not sure how this would work...do they have tech that somehow allows them to enable and disable car charging even though they only control the meter, not the Podpoint ? If they can do this, do they only apply the 5.5p/kWh to actual car charging and not to any other electricity supply purpose during the cheap period (I like to use the tumble dryer in the cheap period for what I thought was a two-thirds discount).
Does anyone think this new offer is good value, or more like too much hassle ?
I regularly get 52/53% (as of the car/app which rounds to zero decimal places) out of my 4 hours on an Ohme. It must all be down to the voltage supplied to the charger in the first place.
If you're supplying 230v @ 32 amps for 4 hours, that's 29.4kwh or about 50% of 58kwh.
If you're supplying 240v @ amps for 4 hours, that's 30.7kwh of about 52.9% of 58kwh.
As of this minute, my Ohme is showing a 234v supply which equates to 51.6% (or the 52% reported increase I regularly see)
If you're supplying 230v @ 32 amps for 4 hours, that's 29.4kwh or about 50% of 58kwh.
If you're supplying 240v @ amps for 4 hours, that's 30.7kwh of about 52.9% of 58kwh.
As of this minute, my Ohme is showing a 234v supply which equates to 51.6% (or the 52% reported increase I regularly see)
It's supposed to be good practise to push it to 100 occasionally otherwise the BMS doesn't know what the top of the battery looks like.I have never charged to 100%. I know the ID3 100% is not really 100%, but I prefer to avoid if I can.
Just don't leave it at 100 for any length of time.
Not best pleased with Octopus. Signed up in May, straight onto Octopus Go as my existing smart meter was compatable. They pushed us to install new smart meters and the install failed, in August. They then put us on standard rate and can’t get an engineer out due to shortages. Luckily we have a 1st edition. With still lots of free charger juice.
Generally Octpus seems to have been overwhelmed and can barely cope with the demand. Customer service has nose dived.
Generally Octpus seems to have been overwhelmed and can barely cope with the demand. Customer service has nose dived.
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