[MarkyM]

I think Sylvia may have mixed her numbers a bit. Mentioned 527 litres for boot capacity but brochure and then the on screen graphic she showed were 531 litres.
And I am hoping the WLTP range for the "45" is 286 miles and not 268 miles as she quoted as that seems a bit low for a 72kWh EV (especially a Hyundai EV) and may mean a motorway journey at almost 70mph would be under 200 miles which would not be good for a Hyundai at this price with this sized battery.

Pleased, if I do go for it, that I have chosen the light interior, as the dark interior was like a proverbial coal cellar! With closed off roof as well due to the gimmicky solar panels it will be a very dark place to be! She seemed to say that that the pano roof not available in the UK but as before, available in just about all other markets. Why do they do this?? WIll come eventually but may take 2-3 years. Don't they realise how useful a pano roof is? Especially on an EV. Not just for light but warms the car even on winter days even if relatively not that sunny. Less need for heater, thus increases range! No need for heavy solar panels. I do get it that the 45 is a technical tour de force which is why the solar roof is included but then why USB A instead of USB-C (just one each would have been good) and no wireless Apple CP/Android Auto, and no OTA updates....
I NEVER EVER trust that this or that feature will "come later on" as it often does not and often does not work as well as when it is hard baked in to the car from the beginning. A real shame and way behind Tesla.

Also the bezels on the drivers displays are massive but this is a cosmetic issue and not a real issue.
No news on servicing regime/pricing. Heat pump as standard?

It is a nice car but rather blowing smoke up their own backsides a bit. Like they had re-invented the wheel or something!
Par for the course nowadays.

 

[MarkyM]

I agree the solar roof is cool (or should that be hot!)
And will be a talking point and possible selling point in the future, but no real tech info about them -eg- power, efficiency and what they power exactly? The screens, heater or EV battery ? etc. How much weight do they add?
I will be very happy to be proved wrong but fear they will be a gimmick as in not that useful or add much energy. Especially here in the UK.
In fact, how heavy is this car? With electric seats front and rear I fear it will weigh over 2 tonnes which makes the lower range a distinct possibility.
Bizarre if flagship Hyundai has a significantly lower range than the Kona (and Kia e-Niro/Soul).

 

[MarkyM]

Yes. Just received the email with most of the Q&A listed. Range is very disappointing. Only a bit more than the WLTP of a Renault Zoe at the end of the day. I know these are different cars for different areas of the market but all EVs are range limited compared to a typical ICE car, and is one of the main differentiators among EVs. The range is unimpressive.

Pick of the range looks to be the 2WD which I am sure is RWD 2WD 72.6kWh battery with 300 mile range.
Shame this flagship is loaded to the gills which hurts its economy/efficiency (electrically adjustable rear seats for example) And the solar panels give just 205W, which is 2/3 of just 1 panel on my home at present, and I have a lot more on my roof which helps to power stuff and charge my car! My home roof solar panels are south facing and angled just so to optimise solar electric generation but even then they do almost bugger all for 3-4 months of the year. So this "panel" will do even less in our UK climate. They have still not explained what the panels will charge in the car or how much weight they add.Car is at least 2.1 tonnes so Polestar heavy. Which is a very heavy EV for its size.

And annual bloody servicing and/or 10,000 mile intervals. Certainly not the future of EV motoring...
Lots of questions remain unanswered "further details will be shared closer to the launch"....
I love many aspects of this car but 3-4 big issues turn me off, the range for the price being a major one.

Oh, and they seem to suggest we pay upfront BEFORE we get sight of the car and before seeing it/test driving it which will be up to our chosen dealer. No bloody way! High chance of finding out that this or that feature is not on the car if they do it like that. Rather like the trumpeted OTA updates which are no longer part of the spec.(only sat-nav updates...at some point in the future)

Will have a think. May well be out though..

 

[MarkyM]

I didn’t understand that either. Hyundai/Kia have always specified the NET battery capacity of their EVs.
The Kona is a net 64kwh battery. Bjorn and others have calculated the gross battery above that 67-68kwh I believe.
The gross is 78 kWh for this car and net 72kWh from everything I have read so far.

 

[MarkyM]

Anyone know if Bjorn Nyland is getting his hands on one anytime soon? Want to see a proper range test and would be a good at this time of year so we would have an idea of UK range. As he often does range tests in -30 degC! Too many of the Ioniq videos seem like adverts at present. Really disappointed that this car weighs over 2 tonnes. Weight is a given at present with EVs until we get a breakthrough in cell chemistry to enable much lighter battery weights but never wanted to drive a proverbial “tank”. Just reiterates with me that real world efficiency of this car will be quite average or even poor.

 

[MarkyM]

Ok. A bit more excited and relieved now. Definitely sounded quiet/hardly any road noise. It is a big car and would have been nice if he commented on the turning circle as he did turn the car in the road. Still no mention of efficiency, only that it is a Hyundai and their previous cars have been really efficient but none of those have weighed well over 2 tonnes!
Solar panels do look nice, and as long as it has the bright interior which this demo car had then it will not feel too dark or claustrophobic inside. Loving the ride quality and interior space. And like the Tesla Model S, looks like you will be able to sleep/camp in it, if absolutely necessary, as will have a huge load bay with the seats folded flat. And the V2L will allow you to prepare your breakfast and meals later on suitable electric appliances!
Hyundai really showing the benefits and uses of a proper EV design and architecture.

 

[MarkyM]

This demo car must be doing the rounds as Car magazine have also reviewed it and they have given it a stellar review. Ride, steering and handling. The specifically mention the turning circle and state it is impressively small. Will have to sample it in person I hope.

 

[MarkyM]

It makes me laugh that designers of the car say it won't need a rear wiper, as aerodynamics will push the rain water off. We ran a FN2 Honda Civic Type R for a few years with the same claim.
But on an early morning with dew, the rear screen was often covered in fine droplets/dew. You want a quick wipe with a wiper but there wasn't one. Had to get out an wipe it with a cloth! Very futuristic. Same if it has rear view camera. Unless it is heated. And then if you drive around town at urban speeds there was never enough airflow to clean the rear window of rain either! Tried products like Rain-X etc but never made much difference. Will hope the Ioniq lives up to the claim that it does not need a rear wiper. Some things like this are designed by engineers in wind tunnels but not tested in the real world.