I am hoping the difference is something simple like 77kWh total, with 72kWh usable.
IONIQ 5 Virtual Showroom Event
Just had an email for the IONIQ 5 Virtual Showroom Event, just received confirmation
"Thank you for registering for the IONIQ 5 Virtual Showroom Event"
These events include a 30-minute walkaround tour of the IONIQ 5, followed by a 15-minute Q&A with our product experts where you will have the opportunity to ask questions live.
"Thank you for registering for the IONIQ 5 Virtual Showroom Event"
These events include a 30-minute walkaround tour of the IONIQ 5, followed by a 15-minute Q&A with our product experts where you will have the opportunity to ask questions live.
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Yes 260 miles range is just not good enough for the asking price etc. I’m coming from a M3 LR.
God, you lot don’t half moan! 😀
I thought it was a good presentation. Yes the lady who introduced the session had an American accent, so what, she was perfectly understandable. The lady with a slight french accent was the European product specialist - she knew her stuff and, once again, was perfectly understandable. The journalist was smooth - that’s his job. I thought the bit with the golf clubs and dog cage was amusing - those are the stupid questions customers (like me) ask.
Yes there was lots of marketing but they are trying sell you a car! Credit to Hyundai for trying something different. The only thing about the car, I thought was a bit disappointing was the lack of a sunroof. I agree with whoever said that combined with the dark interior it might be a bit dingy inside ....
So I would be up for a P45 version but I suspect I will have to wait until the proper launch.
I thought it was a good presentation. Yes the lady who introduced the session had an American accent, so what, she was perfectly understandable. The lady with a slight french accent was the European product specialist - she knew her stuff and, once again, was perfectly understandable. The journalist was smooth - that’s his job. I thought the bit with the golf clubs and dog cage was amusing - those are the stupid questions customers (like me) ask.
Yes there was lots of marketing but they are trying sell you a car! Credit to Hyundai for trying something different. The only thing about the car, I thought was a bit disappointing was the lack of a sunroof. I agree with whoever said that combined with the dark interior it might be a bit dingy inside ....
So I would be up for a P45 version but I suspect I will have to wait until the proper launch.
I thought in terms of presentation it was absolutely fine and they answered questions. My only disappointment is no OTA updates, which is a frustration with capability rather than the actual presentation itself which I think had a decent level of detail. It would be good to get a more detail overview of the software, menus, etc on the car.
Yeh to be fair the event was ok. Decent effort. Gold paint looks great
That range is very disappointing. I was expecting at least as good as the Kona and that does 300 miles in summer with ease. I do not want a car with less range than my car that is more than 2 years old.
Two new Virtual Showroom Event videos about 30 mins long, from Hyundai UK now on You Tube for general viewing.
One covers the Project 45 (but is actually a European Ultimate Spec 5) and the other the Ioniq 5.
One covers the Project 45 (but is actually a European Ultimate Spec 5) and the other the Ioniq 5.
268 miles confirmed. I’m out. That’s pathetic.
Yes. Just received the email with most of the Q&A listed. Range is very disappointing. Only a bit more than the WLTP of a Renault Zoe at the end of the day. I know these are different cars for different areas of the market but all EVs are range limited compared to a typical ICE car, and is one of the main differentiators among EVs. The range is unimpressive.
Pick of the range looks to be the 2WD which I am sure is RWD 2WD 72.6kWh battery with 300 mile range.
Shame this flagship is loaded to the gills which hurts its economy/efficiency (electrically adjustable rear seats for example) And the solar panels give just 205W, which is 2/3 of just 1 panel on my home at present, and I have a lot more on my roof which helps to power stuff and charge my car! My home roof solar panels are south facing and angled just so to optimise solar electric generation but even then they do almost bugger all for 3-4 months of the year. So this "panel" will do even less in our UK climate. They have still not explained what the panels will charge in the car or how much weight they add.Car is at least 2.1 tonnes so Polestar heavy. Which is a very heavy EV for its size.
And annual bloody servicing and/or 10,000 mile intervals. Certainly not the future of EV motoring...
Lots of questions remain unanswered "further details will be shared closer to the launch"....
I love many aspects of this car but 3-4 big issues turn me off, the range for the price being a major one.
Oh, and they seem to suggest we pay upfront BEFORE we get sight of the car and before seeing it/test driving it which will be up to our chosen dealer. No bloody way! High chance of finding out that this or that feature is not on the car if they do it like that. Rather like the trumpeted OTA updates which are no longer part of the spec.(only sat-nav updates...at some point in the future)
Will have a think. May well be out though..
Pick of the range looks to be the 2WD which I am sure is RWD 2WD 72.6kWh battery with 300 mile range.
Shame this flagship is loaded to the gills which hurts its economy/efficiency (electrically adjustable rear seats for example) And the solar panels give just 205W, which is 2/3 of just 1 panel on my home at present, and I have a lot more on my roof which helps to power stuff and charge my car! My home roof solar panels are south facing and angled just so to optimise solar electric generation but even then they do almost bugger all for 3-4 months of the year. So this "panel" will do even less in our UK climate. They have still not explained what the panels will charge in the car or how much weight they add.Car is at least 2.1 tonnes so Polestar heavy. Which is a very heavy EV for its size.
And annual bloody servicing and/or 10,000 mile intervals. Certainly not the future of EV motoring...
Lots of questions remain unanswered "further details will be shared closer to the launch"....
I love many aspects of this car but 3-4 big issues turn me off, the range for the price being a major one.
Oh, and they seem to suggest we pay upfront BEFORE we get sight of the car and before seeing it/test driving it which will be up to our chosen dealer. No bloody way! High chance of finding out that this or that feature is not on the car if they do it like that. Rather like the trumpeted OTA updates which are no longer part of the spec.(only sat-nav updates...at some point in the future)
Will have a think. May well be out though..
Curiously in the answers is that the 73kW battery is apparently the gross capacity, which would go some way to explain the poor range figures.
Having a serious think now about switching to an EV6 instead
Having a serious think now about switching to an EV6 instead
I didn’t understand that either. Hyundai/Kia have always specified the NET battery capacity of their EVs.
The Kona is a net 64kwh battery. Bjorn and others have calculated the gross battery above that 67-68kwh I believe.
The gross is 78 kWh for this car and net 72kWh from everything I have read so far.
The Kona is a net 64kwh battery. Bjorn and others have calculated the gross battery above that 67-68kwh I believe.
The gross is 78 kWh for this car and net 72kWh from everything I have read so far.
For nearly £50k there are far too many compromises. Range. OTA updates. Servicing. Tow hitch extra cost. Wired CarPlay. No fog lights.
They can’t even say if the vehicle to load adapter is waterproof. Not much use if it’s not.
Only think going for it now is that it looks cool
They can’t even say if the vehicle to load adapter is waterproof. Not much use if it’s not.
Only think going for it now is that it looks cool
Buying before getting a sight of the car might be advantageous as the transaction will be covered (I think) by the Consumer Contracts Regulations. This gives the right to cancel up to 14 days after delivery. I shall certainly be looking very closely at any paperwork and striking out anything that might reduce or nullify my consumer rights. It would be helpful if a legal expert on this forum was able to advise?Yes. Just received the email with most of the Q&A listed. Range is very disappointing. Only a bit more than the WLTP of a Renault Zoe at the end of the day. I know these are different cars for different areas of the market but all EVs are range limited compared to a typical ICE car, and is one of the main differentiators among EVs. The range is unimpressive.
Pick of the range looks to be the 2WD which I am sure is RWD 2WD 72.6kWh battery with 300 mile range.
Shame this flagship is loaded to the gills which hurts its economy/efficiency (electrically adjustable rear seats for example) And the solar panels give just 205W, which is 2/3 of just 1 panel on my home at present, and I have a lot more on my roof which helps to power stuff and charge my car! My home roof solar panels are south facing and angled just so to optimise solar electric generation but even then they do almost bugger all for 3-4 months of the year. So this "panel" will do even less in our UK climate. They have still not explained what the panels will charge in the car or how much weight they add.Car is at least 2.1 tonnes so Polestar heavy. Which is a very heavy EV for its size.
And annual bloody servicing and/or 10,000 mile intervals. Certainly not the future of EV motoring...
Lots of questions remain unanswered "further details will be shared closer to the launch"....
I love many aspects of this car but 3-4 big issues turn me off, the range for the price being a major one.
Oh, and they seem to suggest we pay upfront BEFORE we get sight of the car and before seeing it/test driving it which will be up to our chosen dealer. No bloody way! High chance of finding out that this or that feature is not on the car if they do it like that. Rather like the trumpeted OTA updates which are no longer part of the spec.(only sat-nav updates...at some point in the future)
Will have a think. May well be out though..
Yep, you have statutory rights to reject for no reason within 14 days under CCR. There are actually 2 relevant bits of legislation i believe, those which apply to sales of all new goods to private individuals; and those that relate to 'distance selling' as was. The latter applies if you do not set foot in a dealership prior to physically taking delivery, for example completing all the paperwork electronically, and making payments online or over he phone but be careful around the area of, for example, test drives! There are detailed requirements on merchantable quality, 'fit for purpose', 'as described', etc which give different rights in the event of problems. All of these cannot be signed away by contract small print, and provide a backstop if the sellor does not offer additional guarantees.
NB - I'm not a lawyer but went through this recently with Polestar.
NB - I'm not a lawyer but went through this recently with Polestar.
Oh. What happened with polestar ?
There's a new Asian Petrolhead video up where he does a range test with an AWD car.
285 miles.
... which is not to shabby! Not sure what size wheels, but the spec was lower than the P45.
285 miles.
... which is not to shabby! Not sure what size wheels, but the spec was lower than the P45.
I think 20" wheels. Panoramic roof rather than Solar Roof. Not sure about heat pump being fitted. Also unclear on traffic conditions encountered, type of terrain and average speed achieved.There's a new Asian Petrolhead video up where he does a range test with an AWD car.
285 miles.
... which is not to shabby! Not sure what size wheels, but the spec was lower than the P45.
The media embargo for the UK car reviews lifts on Monday 26th April, so hopefully more info is revealed then
They mention in that video they'd been driving for 13 hours - presumably they mean filming and driving. The guy in the video said Korean highway speed is 80km/h and they hit traffic so not close to motorway speed imo
Long story. Short version - we got one of the very early P2's and expected some teething problems, but hit a whole load of issues and problems resulting in the car being basically unusable. In addition there were a lot or recalls coming out to rectify mechanical defects and software issues, and promised software such as OTA and phone App were suddenly announced as having long delays. We gave notice of intention to reject within 14 days and gave them a chance (then another) to fix. After 2 failed attempts by Volvo to fix the problems we decided enough was enough and rejected the car. At that time Volvo had not been trained or familiarised in the P2 and did their best but simply had the problem dumped in their laps in the UK and didn't have a clue.Oh. What happened with polestar ?
We did everything in writing via email, but still had difficulty in getting them to collect the car. Polestar have little infrastructure in the UK and they clearly didn't give a [insert you own word here!] about us as customers or try or compensate us in any way. Sad, we didn't want to reject but they gave us no alternative.
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