[AdamEV]

IONIQ 5 will get Vehicle to Grid charging

There has been much excitement about the forthcoming Hyundai IONIQ 5, largely due to its stylish design and 800v ultra-rapid system enabling over 200kW charging speeds. But another innovative techn…

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[electricdriver]

Title is misleading, but article quickly states the reality. What it gets is V2L - vehicle to load - which gives the ability to provide a few kW via an adaptor fitted to the charging port. Could be really useful, but it's not true V2G capability as I understand it.

 

[idiotzoo]

Title is misleading, but article quickly states the reality. What it gets is V2L - vehicle to load - which gives the ability to provide a few kW via an adaptor fitted to the charging port. Could be really useful, but it's not true V2G capability as I understand it.

Indeed and this has been demonstrated by most of the video reviews. I particularly enjoyed Jonny Smith’s approach of charging an electric bike, running an air dancer and a bouncy castle from the car.

This is likely the right approach for vehicle to grid/home, putting the electronics in the car and using type2. Still needs more integrated management to work properly and that’s the hard bit.

 

[WonkoTheSaneUK]

Indeed and this has been demonstrated by most of the video reviews. I particularly enjoyed Jonny Smith’s approach of charging an electric bike, running an air dancer and a bouncy castle from the car.

This is likely the right approach for vehicle to grid/home, putting the electronics in the car and using type2. Still needs more integrated management to work properly and that’s the hard bit.

Some might also have been impressed by Bobby Llewellyn granny-charging the show's Hyundai Kona EV camera car from the Ioniq 5's socket.

 

[SuperLeaf]

Title is misleading, but article quickly states the reality. What it gets is V2L - vehicle to load - which gives the ability to provide a few kW via an adaptor fitted to the charging port. Could be really useful, but it's not true V2G capability as I understand it.

I think that you haven't read the full article.
It states:

It now looks like the IONIQ 5 will be getting full Vehicle to Grid capability, according to a new Smart Grid project announcement in the Netherlands. The joint project between Hyundai, City of Utrecht and We Drive Solar aims to use a fleet of IONIQ 5 cars and 500 V2G charging stations to create a true Smart Grid in Utrecht.

But the article itself is also confusing V2G with V2H. These are different concepts.
Personally, I think that V2G is not profitable for the car owner, getting pennies to tap from your battery while degrading it, but V2H can be if the car's batteries are used as home batteries.

As for V2L, if it impacts the production costs significantly, I don't see the point of putting it standard on the car and it could actually work out to be a mistake.
Seeing how Setec prices their portable system with similar outputs, those are not cheap.
V2L never caught on with the Nissan Leaf crowd, people don't have enough of a use for it to justify the cost.
Most who need this capability such as market stall businesses, also already own a generator.

More on this here:

Nissan leaf 24 V2L solution

I've read some threads around Nissan leaf vehicle to grid (V2g) but I'm trying to figure out if it can do v2l, like the new ioniq5 for example. I like the idea of going on a day trip, and being able to plug in something like a George Foreman grill using the battery power from the car. Is this...

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[skr1]

I personally love the concept of V2L and I have plans for use ..Having solar panels and storage battery . There are requirements for V2g for good reason.

 

[Marktm]

Anyone have recent information from dcbel on their solar ready V2G/V2H ("blackout") equipment?. They are claiming to support both typical Canadian single phase and US split phase home systems (with addtional equipment).
Interesting that the new Ford "Lightning" EV pickup appears to have options for V2G/V2H and V2L. V2G/V2H does correctly indicate that additional home panel work is required (likely the transfer switch/system?) - and the use of their own supplied charge controller (strickly guessing here). Interesting to watch how this develops as these various options should clarify to some degree the differences in V2X offerings from various OEMs.

 

[EV SPARKS]

I personally love the concept of V2L and I have plans for use ..Having solar panels and storage battery . There are requirements for V2g for good reason.

I'm doing the same as you but i'm told I can;t charge the house batteries from V2L How has your project going?

 

[skr1]

Up and running ..All good.