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And? the Ioniq5 "project 45" was over 48k on launch - the equivalent model is now 42k (and prices have risen) so theres room for cheaper models.
Is the Ora F* Cat dead?
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I don't think you would be able to get the same/similar spec as the P45 for £42k!
Don't forget it is AWD and the Premium AWD is £48,900 without any extras the P45 has.
The Namsan edition is probably closer and that is £56,400....
My other half likes the Ora cat as we did see them at Fully charged, Farnborough, but the price is stupidly high, so will be interested to see what the MG4 is like in the flesh and also what the big battery version cost is going to be. If it is under £30k, MG should be onto a winner.
Don't forget it is AWD and the Premium AWD is £48,900 without any extras the P45 has.
The Namsan edition is probably closer and that is £56,400....
My other half likes the Ora cat as we did see them at Fully charged, Farnborough, but the price is stupidly high, so will be interested to see what the MG4 is like in the flesh and also what the big battery version cost is going to be. If it is under £30k, MG should be onto a winner.
The Cat is an objectively poor design and the car is uncompetitive in other respects at it’s price point,. Even if neither were true it would be very hard and costly to establish it in the market. MG is a poor comparison: they’ve got brand equity and have been selling Chinese cars through a dealer network for a decade or more. Ora just didn’t do their research. The UK is a surprisingly discerning market.
I can't see how you can say it is objectively poor design. Design is largely subjective, there are dozens of cars which I think look terrible, dull or uninspiring, but that is my subjective view.
It may be objective when related to efficiency, reliability, and a few other factors, but I don't think we know these details yet. Even a few posts here with people saying they don't like it is not objective. Ora have a very low sales target (ultimately 2.5% to 3% market share) and will be bought by people wanting something different or quirky, that probably is not me or other people on this thread.
Over on the MG Owner's forum, the consensus is that the 4 will start at £26,000 for the 51kWh SE trim (confirmed by a dealer on FB), to £31,000-ish for the 64kWh Trophy trim.
I dont think the Ora Cat is dead…..I just think it’s severely wounded, having shot itself in the foot with what has to go down as a “bungled” launch
They must have known they were not not ready…..still no confirmed Dealers let alone actual cars to be bought
They must have known they were not not ready…..still no confirmed Dealers let alone actual cars to be bought
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If that becomes true then after watching the new Vauxhall Astra 2022 review on Carwow yesterday, that starts at £24k for the base spec 1.2 100 bhp petrol turbo. That is getting pretty close to price parity, any discounts depending on Astra or MG4.
However the starting price for the previous generation Astra was just £19k , so is this becoming a meet in the middle scenario where there are no "Cheap" cars anymore?
Last post on social media was 14 July. Launch edition pricing £31,995. They probalby will sell out. I don't think GWM are planning on selling large numbers here in 2022.
The top spec Fiat 500 La Prima is slightly cheaper than the stoopid Cat. The 500 is a nice car, especially in the top trim.
Fiat 500 starts at £29,435. Fiat stopped taking orders for the 24kWh base 'Action' trim. There are a handful of unsold new ones around at ~£24k.
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It really is a race to the bottom when a starting Astra is almost £24k
The mk7 Astra (2015-2021) started at £15,295
The problem happens when all manufacturers think they are now "premium" and expect the money associated.
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My Dad's mate has a Duster. Often, he found a toilet roll on the roof aerial and didn't understand why... Cos it's sheeet, lol. Even his wife hated it 😆December 2020 - £8k
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I’m not a car designer, but I have studied product design. As a designer you’re taught about volumes, proportions, how lines resolve, how cars sit on their wheels, stance, etc. I’d say the Cat is objectively odd looking because it has no balance, few of its details link to each other and it ends up looking like a pastiche of a handful of different existing designs. It’s not alone in looking objectively grim - BMW are doing their best to throw 60 years of well resolved design down the toilet with some of their latest models (iX being the most heinous).
Confirmed. Got an email from MG yesterday confirming that the base spec MG4 is £25,995, LR edition at £28,495 and to trim Trophy model at £31,495. Looks like MG will wipe the market at this price point. At least that is until BYD bring their cars to the UK.
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. Our local dealer handed back the franchise because they could not get cars.
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My local MG franchise is all Vauxhall's, not MGs
Mine is MG, Isuzu, Subaru, SsangYong & Mitsubishi. They had to move to larger premises just to be able to fit all the signage!My local MG franchise is all Vauxhall's, not MGs
Gonna have to swing by & firm up my pre-order, now that trims & prices are out.
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