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On the one hand it might be an interesting watch.
On the other hand it will probably be 22 minutes (plus ads) of stating the bleeding obvious (to anybody who has taken any interest in the subject over the last few years).

So I need to decide whether to record it, because:
People still watch television?
Not live. :)
 

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On the one hand it might be an interesting watch.
On the other hand it will probably be 22 minutes (plus ads) of stating the bleeding obvious (to anybody who has taken any interest in the subject over the last few years).

So I need to decide whether to record it, because:
Not live. :)
If its anything like the previous 2 installments with the dozy Yorkshire couple expect the TV remote to get hurled at the screen.
Plus that balloon Edmund King, you would think he had a vested interest in old unreliable ICE vehicles they way he goes on about EVs.
 
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Optimistic about having Ginny Buckley as the reporter, she's good on the Electrifying youtube channel.
The last show she did like this for ITV was just full of the same old tropes though.
 

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Hmm... they packed a lot in (some of it completely irrelevant to how a car is powered), and it jumped around quite a bit, but overall pretty fair I thought.
 

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I thought it was pretty negative to be honest. If I hadn't owned EV's for seven years (therefore understanding all of the positives) it wouldn't have encouraged me to look into them further.

I did agree with some of the points, like issues with the charging network. However the segments about not owning a car and automation (using an ICE Merc) weren't really that relevant.

It was definitely missing some of the positives, like starting each day with a full charge, the ridiculously low cost of overnight charging, no VED, super quiet and calm driving experience and the complete lack of local pollution.
 

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I thought it was pretty negative to be honest. If I hadn't owned EV's for seven years (therefore understanding all of the positives) it wouldn't have encouraged me to look into them further.
Yes - that’s true actually - but I suppose the main topic of tonight’s show was how successfully the transition will go....on the basis that the transition is definitely going to happen...whether some people like it or not.

In essence, the argument about the virtues of EVs has been won. They are coming and fossil fuel cars are soon to be history, so...in a sense, pieces in a show like this about stuff like preheating, driving characteristics etc aren’t really needed anymore.

AFAIUI, recent survey results indicate demand for EVs is likely to far outweigh supply for the foreseeable future. So probably wise of the programme makers to now focus of aspects to do with making the inevitable transition as smooth as possible.
 

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In essence, the argument about the virtues of EVs has been won. They are coming and fossil fuel cars are soon to be history, so...in a sense, pieces in a show like this about stuff like preheating, driving characteristics etc aren’t really needed anymore.

AFAIUI, recent survey results indicate demand for EVs is likely to far outweigh supply for the foreseeable future. So probably wise of the programme makers to now focus of aspects to do with making the inevitable transition as smooth as possible.
Going to have to disagree there. Spending a lot of time on the internet, the argument's been getting louder than ever since the combustion ban announcement.

We've also been seeing some very high-profile, well-funded disinformation, such as the Astongate study. The positives are getting drowned out in the increasing noise of the popular discourse.
 

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Yes - that’s true actually - but I suppose the main topic of tonight’s show was how successfully the transition will go....on the basis that the transition is definitely going to happen...whether some people like it or not.

In essence, the argument about the virtues of EVs has been won. They are coming and fossil fuel cars are soon to be history, so...in a sense, pieces in a show like this about stuff like preheating, driving characteristics etc aren’t really needed anymore.

AFAIUI, recent survey results indicate demand for EVs is likely to far outweigh supply for the foreseeable future. So probably wise of the programme makers to now focus of aspects to do with making the inevitable transition as smooth as possible.
I guess it depends on what their brief was. If it was to show what the current state of play was with the transition then it was a pretty good summary. The TLDR version is that a lot more needs to be done in all areas, and quickly

However the only people who would fully understand all of these issues would be the people who currently drive EV's, which means very few people.

The average ICE owner would have been staring at the TV in disbelief at the nightmare scenarios shown (running out of charge on both HV and 12v batts, broken chargers, garages not wanting to touch them etc) and swearing to buy a new ICE in 2029 so they never have to switch to EV. It wasn't exactly encouraging!
 

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Going to have to disagree there. Spending a lot of time on the internet, the argument's been getting louder than ever since the combustion ban announcement.

We've also been seeing some very high-profile, well-funded disinformation, such as the Astongate study. The positives are getting drowned out in the increasing noise of the popular discourse.
I am not to bothered what rubbish is spouted these days. With so many EVs either available or coming soonish the battle is all but won. Let them stamp their feet and then listen to them say how amazing their new EV is in 5 years time.
 

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If it was to show what the current state of play was with the transition then it was a pretty good summary.
I’m fairly sure that’s exactly what it was - it is after all, ostensibly at least, a factual current affairs / news magazine show. I don’t think it could / should be expected to be a sort of advertisement for EVs.
 

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I am not to bothered what rubbish is spouted these days. With so many EVs either available or coming soonish the battle is all but won.
Agree - the argument is won, and so it’s probably, I think, a good use of the show to shine a bright light on issues such as the Ecotricity shambles.

Just a shame they wasted a good 5 mins or so on the bit about self-driving tech that could have been spent on other aspects actually relevant to EVs specifically.
 

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First year I had the Soul a franchised main Kia dealer refused to service it. That was only in July 2017!


The state of ecotricty is still appalling. Who checks to see if a petrol station is working? Nobody. You expect it to just work. They shouldn't have been let off that easily.

Kidding people everything is fine when it isn't won't lead to anything other than disenfranchised switchers that feel like they've been conned.
 

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Yep - need to put all effort into making sure the transition works, not keep expending energy on encouraging, through 'puff pieces', a transition that is all but guaranteed anyway.
 
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