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Well, I'm really excited as I have just placed an order for the Opel Corsa-e, in Quartz Grey color :)
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We only have one trim level here in Israel for the electric Corsa, which is similar to the Elite Nav spec in Europe.
It has pretty high specs, including:
  • Adaptive Cruise Control
  • Lane keep assist and centering
  • Blind spot monitoring
  • Front and rear parking sensors
  • Virtual 360 deg. rear camera
  • 10 inch infotainment
  • Wireless phone charging
  • Sunroof
  • 17 inch alloys
  • Tinted rear windows
  • Digital dash screen (7 inch)
  • Two tone color (black roof)
  • Keyless entry and start
  • LED headlamps (but not Matrix LEDs)
I test drove the Corsa-e about a month ago, and after that I tested the MG ZS ev.
The MG has significant more power, but I liked the Corsa's sharper handling and agility, as it reminds me of my current car, which is a 2015 Peugeot 208 1.2l turbo (lovely car, but I wanted to upgrade to a more modern car, and decided to go electric too :cool:).

Originally, I was hoping to replace my current 208 with the new e208, but here its pricier than the Corsa-e, and lower specced.

Here is a short list of pros and cons (in my opinion) when comparing the Corsa-e to the MG ZS EV:

MG ZS EV (Exclusive trim):
Pros:
  • Stronger motor (141 hp vs 136 hp)
  • Panoramic Sunroof with electric opening and electric blind
  • Auto brake hold feature (great for those long stoplights)
  • Electric driver's seat
  • Rear passenger room is good
  • Large boot
  • Cheaper to buy (around 8000 ILS cheaper, equivalent to around 2000 GBP)
  • Has room for spare wheel, and dealer provides one as a free benefit.
  • 5 year warranty (versus 4 years for the Corsa)
Cons:
  • Driver's seat was uncomfortable to me (a bit narrow for my size).
  • Interior quality seems OK, but Corsa's seemed better.
  • Infotainment and dash screens are small and graphics look dated.
  • Wobbly suspension. Feels nice and soft over bumps, but takes time to settle down.
  • Smaller battery, less range.
  • No window tints, and windows don't close with keyfob.
  • Simple headlamps
Corsa-e:
Pros:
  • Feels more upmarket and higher quality.
  • Larger infotainment and dash screens, with sharper graphics.
  • Front parking sensors
  • LED headlamps
  • Comfortable front seats (for me)
  • Larger battery, more range, faster DC charging (100kw vs 50 kw per hour)
  • Good handling
  • High quality sound system (at least to my ears... I have heard complaints about the MG's sound system but didn't have a chance to try it out during the test drive).
Cons:
  • Rear passenger room is pretty small, rear doors and entry is narrow.
  • No room for spare wheel in the boot underfloor.
  • No Auto brake hold feature (important to me)
  • Smaller sunroof (non-opening) with manual blind.
  • Price
I know it might not be fair to compare a super-mini to an SUV, but really those two where my only relevant options in the price range.
To be honest, I'm personally not to fond of the SUV trend. I don't need an SUV either, as I usually drive alone to work and back.
We have a leased 7 seater ICE (Citroën C4 Grand Spacetourer) for taking the kids to school and for longer trips.

ETA of the Corsa-e is about 1 month, so not too bad.
Thats it for now.
I will post some of my plans for accessories and improvements of the car in my next post.
 

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Congrats on the choice, you won’t regret it. I’ve had my corsa-e since August and still love driving it. Wish mine had come with the sunroof option though!

Will be interesting to hear what kind of range you get out of it over in Israel. I’ve only heard from drivers in the U.K. (like myself) and Ireland.

I find the subtle differences in spec a bit funny. My top spec Elite Nav didn’t come with wireless phone charging, but yours does. And you don’t get the LED matrix headlights!
 

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Welcome!

Do you have a charge point at home?
Not yet.
In order to justify the high EV prices here, most dealers supply a voucher for a free charge point, with the selection of 2-3 options.
The charge point is free but installation is at cost, depending on the electrical infrastructure you have at home.
I have been contacted by the installers I selected, but we still haven't made an appointment.
The first step is that they send a technician to do a site review, see what the infrastructure is like, etc...

I have 3-phase AC at home, but in my driveway I have only a 1 phase socket.
I'm hoping that they will be able to run 3-phase wires from my driveway to the electrical junction box without to much faff (and without destroying my house :oops:)
Otherwise I will be limited to 16 amps (maybe even less), which at 220v will give only around 3.6kw/h charging.

I've chosen the BeeMeter (with wifi and app) from EVMeter, which a local company that develops and manufactures smart home and public chargers.
They also sell outside of Israel, pretty much around the world.

I forgot to mention that the Corsa-e here doesn't have the 3-phase charging option (as opposed to the Peugeot e208).
Although if it did, I'm not sure it would justify the 600 GBP extra they charge for it on the e208, for example.
But as I'm allready getting a charge point installed I would like it to be able to output as much as my infrastructure can handle, making it "future proof".
It would be nice if the charge point could output 11kw/h for example, for a future car, or if a friend with an EV that supports that rate comes to visit.
After talking with a senior rep. at EVMeter he stated that their charging point is "smart" and can handle both 3-phase and single phase EV's (up to 22kw/h) giving that the infrastructure can provide appropriate power.

Anyways, to make a long story short, I'm both excited and a bit nervous about the charge point installation. I'll have you updated as the process advances.
 

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Congratulations and keep us updated on your charging point. It is always interesting to see how things are different in various countries. I assume like our Spain home you have quite a low contracted supply per phase?
 

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Congrats on the choice, you won’t regret it. I’ve had my corsa-e since August and still love driving it. Wish mine had come with the sunroof option though!

Will be interesting to hear what kind of range you get out of it over in Israel. I’ve only heard from drivers in the U.K. (like myself) and Ireland.

I find the subtle differences in spec a bit funny. My top spec Elite Nav didn’t come with wireless phone charging, but yours does. And you don’t get the LED matrix headlights!
Yeah, the spec difference is interesting. It was hard to compare prices here to UK because I couldn't find the exact spec on UK sites.
The Corsa-e still isn't very popular here, so I really don't have an idea of real-world range.
The reasons it isn't so popular (yet?) are:
1. Price - the MG ZS EV is the best selling EV here in our slowly growing EV market, mainly because its a great deal, costing much like similar specced ICE SUVs. The Corsa-e is a bit pricey as mentioned.
2. The launch of the Corsa-e here was only a few months ago (maybe 2-3 months if I recall correctly). For comparison, the MG ZS EV has been around for almost a year now, locally.

Anyways, I suppose winter range will be better here than in the UK and colder parts of Europe. Where I live, winter temperatures rarely go below 5C. Most of the time its around 10-15 deg. Celsius. Our hot summers may be challenge though :rolleyes:
 

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Congratulations and keep us updated on your charging point. It is always interesting to see how things are different in various countries. I assume like our Spain home you have quite a low contracted supply per phase?
Thanks, I have 3x25 amps. Yes, pretty low, but if they are able to limit each phase to around 16-20 amps, I think I can still achieve a nice charging rate.
 

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As I mentioned, here are some accessories I'm planning to get for the Corsa-e:
1. Space saver spare wheel kit - This is very important to me, as I've had a few punctures in the last 2 years, where the tire was totally damaged (i.e. sidewall cut) and had to be replaced.
Luckily I had a spare wheel kit on my current car, so I was able to get to the shop to have the tire replaced. Its times like this where an inflation kit simply won't do the job.
So when I ordered the Corsa-e, I asked the dealer if it was possible to get a space saver kit (like the one provided on the ICE Corsa). They checked, but the answer was no. They don't have such kits for sale (even though Opel provides them on new ICE Corsas...).
I search the internet alot, and found such a kit which is originally for the Citroen Elysee, which has the same PCD (4x108) and center diameter (65.1 mm) as the Corsa has.
I ordered it from XDALYS, which have worldwide shipping. Its brand new, although they also sell used parts. You can see the kit here (comes with a jack and some tools too...).
But be warned: In theory this space saver should fit the Corsa-e's hub (based on PCD and other specs), but I wouldn't recommend you buy it just yet, until I check in reality that it fits.

I ordered the 16 inch space saver, even though the ICE Corsa's space saver is 15 inch. In afterthought, maybe I should have gone for a 15 inch one, but I don't think it make that much of a difference.
Where will I store it you ask? Thats a good question as we know that there is no underfloor storage in the boot for a spare, just the inflation kit. Well I suppose I will just store it in the boot itself (the kit comes with a cover bag). The boot of the Corsa is small, but as I mentioned I usually commute to work and some errands alone, and the small boot is sufficient for my stuff.

2. Rubber floor mats - I have a set in my current Peugeot, which are original. They were also ordered online when I got the Peugeot 208 back then. But I'm having a hard time finding a set for the Corsa-e online, that also ships to Israel (most sites ship to the UK only, and I need a LHD set anyways...).
From what I found, Opel do have such and accessory (which has 2 variations, one for the ICE Corsa, and one for the EV Corsa) but you can only get it from the dealer. The dealers here usually don't supply original accessories, just some aftermarket stuff. So I'm not even trying with them.
I love the rubber mats I currently have. They are original, high quality thick rubber mats which are easy to clean. You don't have to worry about getting into the car with wet shoes from the rain...
I hope I will be able to find a similar set for the Corsa-e.

3. Sport pedal kit - Not really neccessary, but gives a nice styling addition. Again, I have a similar kit on my Peugeot - and I like the sporty feel it gives to the interior.
Again, I'm having trouble finding an online site that has them and can ship to me.

4. New dash cam - I allready have a fairly old Mio Dash cam, but I wanted a Front/Back (duo) dash cam. After seeing recommendations online, I decided to order the VIOFO A129 PLUS DUO camera with a hardwire kit from AliExpress.

5. Original (or similar OEM) mudflaps - I haven't seen any Corsa's with them on, but I think that they should give a nice styling with the addition of protecting the lower parts of the wheel wells from rock chips and dirt.

6. Nano Ceramic coating - I never had this on my cars, but it seems like a wise thing to do on a brand new car (anyone beg to differ? I would like to hear). Yes, its costly, but it should protect the paint from the elements for at least two years. Other than that, I don't get my cars washed often (just laziness and lack of time) so it would be nice to have less dirt stick on to the car, and have it look cleaner. I'm planning to have a professional do the job. The only downside is that he said I would have to leave the car in his shop for about a day and a half, because its a lengthy process.
If the weather will permit, I will take it for the coating fairly close to delivery of the car, in order to reduce the amount of cleaning and prepping they would have to do before applying the coating.

Thats it for now (spent too much money anyways... ;))
 

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Hi. Just wondering. Where will you keep the spare wheel? The boot is small as is and you wont have much room left once you have a spare wheel in there.

there is no space below the boot liner where a spare wheel would normally go. Thats taken up by batteries. Literally just a small square which the electric inflator goes in.
 

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Hi. Just wondering. Where will you keep the spare wheel? The boot is small as is and you wont have much room left once you have a spare wheel in there.

there is no space below the boot liner where a spare wheel would normally go. Thats taken up by batteries. Literally just a small square which the electric inflator goes in.
As I stated, I'm planning to keep it in the boot. From reviews I've seen online, the depth of the boot is around 70 cm, so I think it will be able to accommodate the 16 inch space saver, if I lay it down flat. It will probably take up most of the boot space, but I really don't have much need for a larger boot. Probably will just keep the charging cables in there, alongside the spare.
 

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A space saver wheel will take up most of the boot space and bang around in the back of the car. If you can stow it vertically it will be less annoying. A previous car I owned had a wheel holder that was in the left side of the boot so you had the wheel upright with it screwed into place. The boot floor was dished to allow it to sit upright. That was quite good. If you can do something like that then it might not be such a nuisance.

If the seats lean back too much into the boot space you may find it won't fit neatly at all.
 

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Interesting that you looked at the e208. I did, too, in the UK. Bottom spec ones (Active and Alure) don't even have a satnav! (I know about using CarPlay etc). Looking at comparable specs and dealer offers, the Corsa was around £3k cheaper than the 208.
 

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Just a short update, and a question:
The charge point installer came over today to do a site a site review before installation (which will be in two weeks from now).

He confirmed that they can install the charge point using the 3 phase AC I have at home (3x25 amps total, they will limit it to 3x16 amps).
It won't be an easy install, as the mains junction box is in the house, one floor above the driveway. But together we came up with best solution for this situation (will need drilling through 2 walls in the house, through one of the bedrooms).

Anyways, I told the installer that the Corsa-e has only a 1 phase on board charger.
Given that the charge point is connected with 3 phase (maximum output of 11kw at 16 amps), will the Corsa-e be able to charge at 7.4 kw, or just at 3.6kw (taking only one phase out of the three, at 16 amps) ?
When I asked the installer, he said that he thinks it will be 3.6kw, but elsewhere when I asked about the specific charge point (EvMeter), I was told that it takes 3 phase but can "convert" it to one phase at a higher output giving 7.4kw.
Does that sound logical? Is it possible or were they just trying to convince me to choose their charge point?
 

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Interesting you take the kids to school in an ICE car and contribute to polluting the school environment a little more that way. I'd say schoolruns are a perfect use case for an EV.
 

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Interesting you take the kids to school in an ICE car and contribute to polluting the school environment a little more that way. I'd say schoolruns are a perfect use case for an EV.
Depends how many kids you got and what age

If it was my wife taking the kids on her own (if she drove it) we could just manage with 1 of them in front but fitting 3 car seats in back. Impossible

However car would be at work with me anyways
 

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Interesting you take the kids to school in an ICE car and contribute to polluting the school environment a little more that way. I'd say schoolruns are a perfect use case for an EV.
Its not ideal, I know... :cautious:
The issue is that the ICE is leased until 2023. I hope that by then there will be enough 7 seater EVs to choose from, and that prices will go down.
My wife is usually with the ICE because she carpools with other parents, so needs the bigger car.
At least that way we help others pollute less :)
 

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Depends how many kids you got and what age

If it was my wife taking the kids on her own (if she drove it) we could just manage with 1 of them in front but fitting 3 car seats in back. Impossible

However car would be at work with me anyways
Same here. Usually the morning run is the more demanding, where my wife takes all 4 children (3 of them need child seats) at the same time. In the afternoon they finish school at different times, but thats when she picks up other kids too.
 

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Good news, it here!
Well, kind of...
I drove the Corsa-e right from the dealership to a detailing specialist to have it nano-ceramic coated. So physically its not in my possession yet ;)
It was a fairly short drive (few minutes), so I haven't had the time to "play around" with it yet.

Here is a picture after being prepped for the coating.
Can wait till they finish...
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To tell the truth, I was worried the delivery would be delayed because of current lockdown, but fortunately dealerships and auto shops are excluded (at least for now, let's hope it won't get worse).
 
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