Mmmm...it states that the seats in the S are suade and vegan leather (aka PVC). I assume the latter is the bolsters, the suede being the squab and backrest which I don't consider a good material choice for ventilated seats. 🤔According to the image at the bottom of the Kia press release, the two-tone seats will be on the GT-Line and the GT-Line S
Interesting to know of imminent test drives.Have been to my Kia dealer Snows of Giuldford they have taken a £1000 deposit just have to wait till next month when they hope to have a road show and offer road tests on all three models.
Delivery September
Hi seems your right the heat pump can only take heat from the battery and put it in the cabin so starting out on a cold morning the heat pump will have nothing to offer the only time it can work is after farst charging Think Kia got this one badly wrong should have been a able to take heat from the air like TeslaYes, I am familiar with the operation of heat pumps I have them in a property in spain.
My understanding in relation to EV's is that the heat pumps are not air source but absorb heat from the coolant that is used for the motors and batteries then utilising this residual heat to heat-up the cabin.
This was my previous query, I am not aware of any other tangible benefit that justifies the additional cost (in this case £900).
My heat pump, according to wltp figures, offers no benefit in terms of additional range afaik.
Imo, if having the cabin heated a couple of minutes sooner in winter is the only benefit, then I don't consider a £900 premium to be financially justifiable.
I would be interested to learn from anyone of any other documented tangible benefits that a heat pump provides.
Yes in full up to the point you place a ferm order by that time you should have had a test drive,Interesting to know of imminent test drives.
Is the deposit refundable?
Suggest you read the linked article. It is an interview / advertorial with Hyundai engineers involved with their heat pump development, naturally they claim their system to be the best, who knows, but it is very clear that it is doing a lot more than just heat scavenging from the battery.Hi seems your right the heat pump can only take heat from the battery and put it in the cabin so starting out on a cold morning the heat pump will have nothing to offer the only time it can work is after farst charging Think Kia got this one badly wrong should have been a able to take heat from the air like Tesla
Hi thanks for the link made interesting reading the articular talks of taking heat from the outside air but does not make it clear how its achieving this unless they use the the returning cooling flow from the cars cooling radiator, it also makes reference to Tesla model Y and that Kia system is better,Suggest you read the linked article. It is an interview / advertorial with Hyundai engineers involved with their heat pump development, naturally they claim their system to be the best, who knows, but it is very clear that it is doing a lot more than just heat scavenging from the battery.
I still doubt it makes financial sense in terms of cost of saved electricity, unless you need the range in which case tick the box
In fact Telsa are keeping up with Hyundai / Kia (and other EV manufacturers such as Nissan) and are somewhat late to the heat pump party. Kia have had head pumps on all their EVs and so have Hyundai. It seems now they are moving to the German model of making them optional where they used to be standardHi thanks for the link made interesting reading the articular talks of taking heat from the outside air but does not make it clear how its achieving this unless they use the the returning cooling flow from the cars cooling radiator, it also makes reference to Tesla model Y and that Kia system is better,
I suppose you have to think that what they are saying is correct and that the £900 will in some way be worth it. One would hope they have not fitted it just to look like they are keeping up with Tesla
Hi i have gone with the heat pump this morning the guy thats dealing with my sale has asked their technician on the function of the heat pump and it is able to take heat from outside the car as well as the heat in the motor and battery.Hi thanks for the link made interesting reading the articular talks of taking heat from the outside air but does not make it clear how its achieving this unless they use the the returning cooling flow from the cars cooling radiator, it also makes reference to Tesla model Y and that Kia system is better,
I suppose you have to think that what they are saying is correct and that the £900 will in some way be worth it. One would hope they have not fitted it just to look like they are keeping up with Tesla
I have to let the dealer know tomorrow if I want a heat pump so that he can proceed with the order which I am 50 50 on will sleep on it
Interesting.Interesting to know of imminent test drives.
Is the deposit refundable?
NON-REFUNDABLE deposit is a condition of ordering a car that I cannot test drive, or at least see and touch then it will be the deal breaker for meA £1000 non-refundable deposit was required.
Highly unlikely there will be any incentives offered on vehicles that customers have and will order without any.Some might offer incentives such as a discount, free mats or accessories or reduced servicing, they might provide a more generous part ex valuation
The key word is "in demand" ...dealers don't need to "earn their money" as sales are given to them on a plate, so they can just sit back and grin whilst watching the orders roll-in. 🥴With an 'in demand' car is there anything a dealer can do to 'stand out' or a prospective buyer do to make their dealer earn their money
