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I added excess mileage on the leaf quote to make it comparable.

The closest comparison is with the 24kwh leaf which is way cheaper.
We would say the closest comparison to the Soul EV is the 30kWh LEAF - from personal experience the Soul will do real world miles of around 95-100 miles to a charge in winter and up to 125 miles in ideal summer conditions.

(one of our many customers) Robert Llewellyn's Fully Charged review on the Soul EV close to when it launched:
 

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EPA i.e. real world range for the Soul EV is 93 miles. EPA range for the 30kwh Leaf is 107 miles. So the Leaf has around 15% greater range than the Soul under the same test conditions.
 

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Just to be clear, I'm not knocking you it's kias' pricingI think is wrong.

As you said its in-between the 24 & 30kw Leaf yet its priced almost above the 30kwh.

I'd love to test the car but hardly any dealers sell them. I'm not driving for ages just to see a car even though there's a kia dealer in my town. It's like they're making it deliberately hard for people.
 

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Just to be clear, I'm not knocking you it's kias' pricingI think is wrong.

As you said its in-between the 24 & 30kw Leaf yet its priced almost above the 30kwh.

I'd love to test the car but hardly any dealers sell them. I'm not driving for ages just to see a car even though there's a kia dealer in my town. It's like they're making it deliberately hard for people.
Completely understand - we have been working closely with Kia to promote and spread the word and get the Soul EV out there - e.g. Route57 roadtrip, Transport for London / Go Ultra Low emission events, Eco Town EV test drive events.

Kia have many dealers starting to convert over to EV specialists but do I know that so far these are in the minority with some dealers not even knowing what the Soul EV is, let alone having a demo.

However it is a great EV - mostly overlooked with a dealer network and knowledge that is definitely starting to catch up :)
 

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@[email protected] Just out of wondering what do the numbers look like between all the ev's? Lets say 24 months, 10k/yr and presume reasonable spec for each. I'm wondering what the steps are between the really low end stuff and things like the Teslas. A simple list of prices against models would give a good indication of bargains and maybe's for me.
 

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@Siraff on 6+23 (24 month term) with 10,000 miles per annum:

- Kia Soul EV is £237.25 inc VAT with an initial rental of £1,423.50 inc VAT (PCH)
- BMW i3 eDrive curre
nt 22kWh model is £281.00 inc VAT with an initial rental of £1,686 inc VAT (PCH) - limited stock
- * new BMW i3 (BEV & REX) 33kWh is £ - model leasing figures to be released shortly*
- Nissan LEAF Acenta 24kWh is £251.41 inc VAT with an initial rental of £1,652.37 inc VAT (PCH)
- Nissan LEAF Acenta 30kWh is £327.76 inc VAT with an initial rental of £2076.91 inc VAT (PCH)
- Tesla Model S 70kWh is £1,117.74 inc VAT with an initial rental of £6,706.44 (PCH)

Hope this is helpful for you! Figures will be updated once i receive them!

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thx Jamie :)
 

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Hi all - just inputted the updated PCH pricing on the Nissan LEAF added above plus new lower leasing figures on the Kia Soul EV:

- 24 months - Kia Soul EV = monthly rental of £218.00 inc VAT (6+23 - 8,000 miles per annum customer maintained, initial rental of £1,308.00 inc VAT - 4.89 pence per mile excess mileage charge)

- 36 months - Kia Soul EV = monthly rental of £208.50 inc VAT (6+35 - 8,000 miles per annum customer maintained, initial rental of £1,251.00 inc VAT - 4.18 pence per mile excess mileage charge)

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Any news on the new i3 yet Jamie?
Hi @Siraff - the funder has loaded the i3 figures but from first look the figures are not right with Plug-in Car Grant etc. We have requested the figures are reviewed before we start quoting...

As soon as we can start quoting with correct figures I will let you know :)

Hope this is helpful!

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EPA i.e. real world range for the Soul EV is 93 miles. EPA range for the 30kwh Leaf is 107 miles. So the Leaf has around 15% greater range than the Soul under the same test conditions.
We have had our Soul for just over a month and are getting better averages than this, typically you can get a range showing of between 104-115, but real world is better. we recently did a 102 mile round trip and were a little worries about the distance but actually had 32 miles 29% battery left after the trip. We used the stronger regen mode which helps and two kids and two adults in the car which has an impact too.
 

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Those specs sound impressive. Sadly few will ever experience them as Kia don't really want to sell the car.

Just look at second hand prices - the cheapest is £18,700. The Soul EV is getting on for over 2 years old. They need to get the cars out there to let more people experience them and thus sing their praises, rather than artificially holding up prices for whatever reason.

New £24,100
cheapest Soul EV £18,700

Sales figures? shocking. Less that 150 sold last year. KIA SOUL EV AUTO - How Many Left?
 

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Took delivery of my Soul on 01/06/2016 having come to the end of a 2 year PCP on my Leaf Tekna. First impressions are excellent. Very good build quality, practical layout and excellent real world range. I charged to 94% on first charge and completed 111 miles in a mix of driving with 7% still remaining. The range guidance is accurate and is usually pessimistic meaning you can generally squeeze another few miles out of the predicted range. Even travelling at up to an indicated 70 mph on the motorway still seems to give 4.3 miles per kWh. Build quality appears very good and the car comes with a standard 6.6 kWh charger which I think is now an £1,150 option on the Leaf. Kia have done an excellent job with this car and whilst I loved my Leaf this car beats it.
 

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Took delivery of my Soul on 01/06/2016 having come to the end of a 2 year PCP on my Leaf Tekna. First impressions are excellent. Very good build quality, practical layout and excellent real world range. I charged to 94% on first charge and completed 111 miles in a mix of driving with 7% still remaining. The range guidance is accurate and is usually pessimistic meaning you can generally squeeze another few miles out of the predicted range. Even travelling at up to an indicated 70 mph on the motorway still seems to give 4.3 miles per kWh. Build quality appears very good and the car comes with a standard 6.6 kWh charger which I think is now an £1,150 option on the Leaf. Kia have done an excellent job with this car and whilst I loved my Leaf this car beats it.
@Jonathon Marshall great to hear you are getting on great with your Soul EV!

There is now a UK dedicated Soul EV facebook page at Skráðu þig inn á Facebook | Facebook if you are a fb user.

We recently set this up for owners and those interested in the Soul to spread the word about this great EV :)
 

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I emailed Kia earlier today as I was about to write the Soul EV off due to lack of nearby dealers. They said all Kia dealers will be able to deal with EVs once their hybrid range is out at the end of the year.. which means in reality more of their dealers should at least be able to service them by the time ones bought now need servicing!
 

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I emailed Kia earlier today as I was about to write the Soul EV off due to lack of nearby dealers. They said all Kia dealers will be able to deal with EVs once their hybrid range is out at the end of the year.. which means in reality more of their dealers should at least be able to service them by the time ones bought now need servicing!
Really dont think it would be wise to purchase until your Kia dealer actually starts servicing Evs. Until then its all just words.
 

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It was either that or get a petrol car.

I emailed Kia suggesting they might want to make sure my local Kia dealer gets on and starts doing EVs. With such few sales I'd think Kia would realise having people complaining about lack of dealer support would kill the Soul EV stone dead so they'd need to prioritise areas where Soul EVs are being sold regardless. With sales in such low numbers I'd think they would get onto it quite quickly. Nissan didn't have that many EV dealers to start with either. The soul EV has only been here since 2014.
 
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