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You're seeing it from a dealer point of view.
Certainly, you probably have a greater insight into what's going on in the trade, supply etc.
I'm just seeing it from a punters perspective- more choice=lower prices.
Personally I think it has more to do with current electricity prices than anything else.
Yes, a lot may be trade-ins, but anyone already seeing the benefits if EV driving will more than likely buy a new one.
Persuading someone in an ICE it's a good idea to pay top dollar for something that's no longer very much cheaper to run is a hard sell.
Hence the situation that's building.
I'm in the "was driving EV, was priced out of the market, back to ICE for now" brigade.
I was about to pul the trigger on what at first I thought was a cheap Zoe, I've decided to wait it out.
Rip off electricity prices here in the U.K. will put a stop or slow down on EV sales, why are we still paying VAT on anything when we are supposed to be an independent trading nation and no longer a member of the eu.
 

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I, for one, wasn't trying to vilify Miles, or his dealer group.
Apologies to him if that's how I came across.
I will say I've heard enough good things about the dsg group on here to know that if I was in the market for something they sell, I would (and have given them), first look. 👍
Miles doesn’t work for DSG :ROFLMAO:
 

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@Miles Roberts - If that blue MG4 was a Trophy spec, I'd be standing in front of you right now!
Don't worry I'm sure they will be getting more in shortly. Only last night on the MGEV forum a member reported they are returning their 3 day old car to Chorley due to an oil leak (MG4 Reduction Gearbox Oil Leak) and yes you did read it correctly - that is the 101st page of discussion on the MG4 oil leak.

It is difficult to say if it is MG or the Dealers to blame, but for anyone that has not followed the saga, a large number of cars have reported oil leaks after a few hundred miles. MG have investigated and redesigned a component that appears to fix the problem. Despite it being a relatively inexpensive fix many dealers are only fitting it to customer cars after they discover the fault and complain.

Some customers are rejecting their cars due to this fault. Due to the £1000 price increase you might be asked to pay more for a rejected used vehicle than the original owner did when it was new. If you are happy to do this and avoid a wait then fill your boots, but at least make sure that the improved breather is fitted before you take it.
 

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Don't worry I'm sure they will be getting more in shortly. Only last night on the MGEV forum a member reported they are returning their 3 day old car to Chorley due to an oil leak (MG4 Reduction Gearbox Oil Leak) and yes you did read it correctly - that is the 101st page of discussion on the MG4 oil leak.

It is difficult to say if it is MG or the Dealers to blame, but for anyone that has not followed the saga, a large number of cars have reported oil leaks after a few hundred miles. MG have investigated and redesigned a component that appears to fix the problem. Despite it being a relatively inexpensive fix many dealers are only fitting it to customer cars after they discover the fault and complain.

Some customers are rejecting their cars due to this fault. Due to the £1000 price increase you might be asked to pay more for a rejected used vehicle than the original owner did when it was new. If you are happy to do this and avoid a wait then fill your boots, but at least make sure that the improved breather is fitted before you take it.
MG will not authorise a replacement breather unless we submit a full technical report including photos and vin numbers of the affected vehicle. The oil leak often doesn't appear until the car has travelled over 100 miles or so.

This makes it impossible for us to replace the part until the fault has presented itself.

I don't disagree with you that this is not ideal.
 

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MG will not authorise a replacement breather unless we submit a full technical report including photos and vin numbers of the affected vehicle. The oil leak often doesn't appear until the car has travelled over 100 miles or so.

This makes it impossible for us to replace the part until the fault has presented itself.

I don't disagree with you that this is not ideal.
Thanks for responding @Miles Roberts. I do acknowledge the sterling work that you have personally done to promote the brand and address issues in the past. The fault has now been identified by a large number of new owners and seems likely to me that it will occur over time on most vehicles, but may take a while for owners to notice if they don't habitually visit these forums or check under their cars. It does seem crazy to me that MG are prepared to take the reputational hit to save a few pounds.

Have you any idea how much it would cost to purchase and fit a new breather without authorisation from MG?

I for one would choose to purchase a vehicle from a dealer who took it upon themselves to do this over one that didn't so it might give you a competitive advantage to do this as part of the PDI regardless.

Hell, I'd even pay up front for it to be done, rather than have it leak on my driveway, potentially need to call out AA, have to take time off work to return it to the dealer and potentially be without a car for a while. I'd still bitch about it on EV forums, but I'd likely pay it to avoid later inconvenience. Maybe that option should be offered?

I note on the MG forum today that Chorley has come to an amicable agreement with the member who was going to reject his car after 3 days due to this issue. That sounds like a good result for all concerned, but frustrating that the whole sorry event could have been avoided.
 

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Thanks for responding @Miles Roberts. I do acknowledge the sterling work that you have personally done to promote the brand and address issues in the past. The fault has now been identified by a large number of new owners and seems likely to me that it will occur over time on most vehicles, but may take a while for owners to notice if they don't habitually visit these forums or check under their cars. It does seem crazy to me that MG are prepared to take the reputational hit to save a few pounds.

Have you any idea how much it would cost to purchase and fit a new breather without authorisation from MG?

I for one would choose to purchase a vehicle from a dealer who took it upon themselves to do this over one that didn't so it might give you a competitive advantage to do this as part of the PDI regardless.

Hell, I'd even pay up front for it to be done, rather than have it leak on my driveway, potentially need to call out AA, have to take time off work to return it to the dealer and potentially be without a car for a while. I'd still bitch about it on EV forums, but I'd likely pay it to avoid later inconvenience. Maybe that option should be offered?

I note on the MG forum today that Chorley has come to an amicable agreement with the member who was going to reject his car after 3 days due to this issue. That sounds like a good result for all concerned, but frustrating that the whole sorry event could have been avoided.
MG won't let us order the part without a warranty claim.

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